Pretty ballsy comment by this dude from TAG Motorsports...

Does he even understand how these cars work? Yeah the intake is the problem oh and while I am at it switch to ours and make more power, even though it’s been proven the open element ones make more power…

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/550554-GIAC-AWE-Stage-II-MAP-Boost-Related-Fault

lol funny shit

Not sure it’s ballsy…really it’s just dirty marketing and slamming a competitor.

This is the kind of thing I absolutely destroyed John for when he used to work at Stratmosphere, so this is just a great case of pennance biting him in the ass (on EuroAddiction he was a loose cannon, constantly lying and talking shit about competitor products to scare people off, and I was a moderator)

Saki, Yeah ballsy is probably not the right term… IMO just not cool to blame a competitors product w/o any facts and say “oh switch to our and you’ll be all good, oh and on top of that you’ll be faster”… No you won’t!

I know how you feel about John and I don’t have the history so I can’t comment as much about the past as you but my dealings with him at Strat and after he left have been outstanding…

Yeah, I don’t really care, I just think it’s funny. Karma I believe they call it.

That TAG guy is a retard for saying stock is better than the roc as we have loads of data showing the roc helping vs awe vs stock vs just about all of them. That’s when you know ‘this guy is never to be trusted’

I’m not saying that he is right or wrong, but I would really like to see some real data on this.

Just a note: 1FastS4 and Austin both had the AWE intake on their cars with their 11.xx runs…

Also, this could be one explanation for Pete’s dads car not running the way it should. I don’t have any data to back up my claim, but and I have a feeling my car is not running the way it should either. I have the USP intake though… I hope to get a few runs in this weekend and take it from there.

He has no data just anecdotal comments, that are probably made up…

Well aware of what 1fast and Austin ran… They are still slower than Ryan, Bear, Imola, and myself and they are running the almighty DSG tune, aren’t they? Granted the DA’s were worse which is huge for these cars…

Review some of Tsivas and Pete’s test on open element intakes vs closed… I also did some testing at the strip and via data logging, the open air elements are better…

yeah exactly you guys did some back to back acceleration testing, and that’s about all that matters. Tag FTL

I thought they got rid of their S4s anyway? Weren’t they driving an S5 3.0T now?

I just replied to the thread before I came over here.

Same conclusion reached.

Just read that thread this morning and thought the exact same thing. He didn’t just say that the common denominator was the Roc-Euro intake but went on to say that the AWE intake fixed it and that the customer said it felt more powerful with the stock intake…right… because we all know butt dynos are great at measuring differences between intakes.

Can’t wait to see John’s response.

I just roll my eyes and move past those kinds of posts. They are obviously just trying to get a plug in for whatever products they endorse.

^^^you should instead kick them in the teeth for being fucking retarded. You have to hold them to a certain standard, these companies. Otherwise they get away with murder.

The peddling is rampant over there. I long for the time when vendors were only allowed to peddle their crap in vendor forums.

I posted on AZ.

I think it would be ballsy if Alex posted that on here - but unfortunately that kind of nonsense is standard fare on AZ.

Let’s see if my comment will warrant another “infraction” from the mods.

It’s unfortunate that many legitimate threads over there often get hijacked by a vendor’s attempts to discredit their competition. The end result is back and forth arguing between people coming from all the platforms. It’s very rare to actually see a solution to the OP’s problem and I can only assume that thread is going to follow the trend.

Hey guess what. The vendors on vendorzine are not there “to sell a product.” And to think this whole time we all thought otherwise. lol

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/550554-GIAC-AWE-Stage-II-MAP-Boost-Related-Fault?p=8917684&viewfull=1#post8917684

yeah, if you call them out for straight lying you run the risk of getting an infraction (or if you amass a few, getting banned like me).

It’s kinda weird.

You are hereby convicted of telling the truth, in a fashion that was inconvenient for one of our paying vendors. You are banned.

after being banned you become the King of inconvenient truths. :wink:

There is another commonality to that CEL and TAG won’t like it… ;D

the GIAC tune? That’s a pretty shrewd observation that Tag sure didn’t make lol