I also think it’s funny that they all worship the britishturbo guy’s car on there. Didn’t he go 11.7 @ 131 and then blow up the car making him start over with a new engine? Maybe I am mistaken…
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I have some inside info on him…lol I know someone who knows him.
He blew his motor because a nitrous solenoid stuck open or something…since he was spraying down low because of his massive lag.
The next thing I heard was his turbo took a shit.
I have some inside info on him…lol I know someone who knows him.
He blew his motor because a nitrous solenoid stuck open or something…since he was spraying down low because of his massive lag.
The next thing I heard was his turbo took a shit.
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Nitrous solenoids don’t stick open what a crock… You need to add power to open them if you loose power they close and there is almost no chance to get it stuck open its spring loaded to stay shut… by default it would more likely be stuck shut…
The tubor blew because the wategate got stuck open too… :
The B5 guys don’t get it… its the same story over and over. Big power big MPH close to a 12sec ET. these cars don’t make power till 1/2 way down the track… if you go way big on the turbo…Then you have the 116 octane 100% alachol spraying to aid the cars on over 30lbs of boost doing ok then blowing the motors
So if debris, for whatever reason, makes its way to the nitrous solenoid it will not stay open?
Lee has designed a bedplate for his 3.0L motor. The 3.0L should handle anything he can throw at it with the PT6466… His previous R/D motors were ironically named “temp motors” from the get go. I believe his plan was to push each temp motor to destruction so he could determine what aspects of the motor needed further design improvement so his 3.0L doesn’t blow.
Anyways, I am hoping to go back to the track next Wednesday to try and get into the 11s before I tackle the topend of my motor… Then this winter I plan to get hooked on E…
So what’s the scoop with his car?
I get that he wanted to see weak points, but you can’t just label something “temp” in case you blow it up. Even a fully built bullet proof motor can be blown if the tuning sucks.
Is this the case? Is he learning to tune by blowing up motors? I mean if someone has the funds to do that…cool, but it still doesn’t make a ton of sense and doesn’t exactly deserve praise.
Why did he disappear for here? Were we al too hard on him?
I’m pretty sure he writes tunes for people. Maybe even a few on this site. No idea if that is a business for him or whatnot.
He should have another temp motor in this weekend.
I believe they are considered temp motors because they are suppose to be temporary until his 3.0L is done being built. He has a lot of one-off parts going into the 3.0L motor and custom parts = time… And for the record, he is breaking known weak points (@ high power levels) in the APB design (like the main webbings and the stock piston/wrist pins)
And I think he has a good grasp on tuning, he is just pushing stock components a little harder (~4x) than what they were designed for 
He needs to stop posting pretend dynos lol
Here is what I find odd in the B5 S4 environment. Nothing this guy is breaking is new to anyone. A true intelligent individual learns from others to advance him or her self faster. I’d make the case that isn’t happening here. This seems to be one man with no ability to learn from past failures of others. Blowing up motors to be no faster then most above average B5 S4 cars of the past should be an embarrassment not an achievement.
As for the solenoid excuse. That is more poor understanding on how the solenoid even works. What’s more likely true is. The kit wss too lazy in the low RPM range, too much nitrous was used and the motor blew
The first engine was called a temporary motor only after failure. He is calling the failures temporary engines because he wants people to think that he expected them to blow.
I believe so as well
what was his quartermile time again? 11.7 @ 132? His car/build/time is the most celebrated time I’ve seen in the B5 scene in a long time.
It’s funny but this video shows early stage GT kit development days at VAST back before smartphones existed and when W was still the bomber in chief. This time was run with some hideous driving. Other than the RS6r time from JHM, is the B5 making any progress?
http://www.streetfire.net/video/vast-performance-gt-600-track-vid_142286.htm
not sure that’s accurate…he called it a temp motor months ago right here on AR
Hey guys,
Just want to say that I never said my nitrous solenoid stuck open… I may have randomly thrown it out somewhere in conversation? I dunno. But considering it worked just fine when tested after that I don’t have any reason or evidence that it actually did.
The first “temp” as I called it motor was an early APB block. Sure people speculate about where things break but I like to do my own R&D on things.
See I’ve been designing this:
http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q755/britishturbo/IMG_20130821_181340_815_zpsca1c275c.jpg
http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q755/britishturbo/IMG_20130819_215209_469_zpsd5689cdf.jpg
It’s a Bedplate for the 2.7 V6 to strengthen the bottom end and make it no longer any kind of weak point.
As mentioned it will be going in my 3.0 build when the block gets machined for it…
Here it is on my office floor waiting for that:
http://i1357.photobucket.com/albums/q755/britishturbo/IMG_20130821_182024_372_zps181d134c.jpg
So I like to do my own R&D on things… sorry if that upsets some people lol
Oh and the 6766 turbo was replaced with a 6466 after I found the turbine wheel had been damaged at some point in time… possibly before the track visit I don’t know. I’m not going to make that any kind of excuse though because I have no way of knowing if it was ok then or not.
The short story is the 6466 is a much better turbo and is what I wanted anyway before the 6766 landed on my lap.
The 6466 is faster than the 6766 was with nitrous… so I don’t know if I’ll ever need the nitrous for antilag with it.
Here’s a video of the 6466 with no nitrous during some highway testing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUUn6Se0wNo
Anyway I mentioned it elsewhere but I am throwing a new “temp” motor in this weekend to make the Pittsburgh Classic next weekend… the 3.0 is behind schedule and I don’t want to miss the event.
Cheers!
wha’ts a pittsburgh classic?
It’s a VW/Audi track day at Pittsburgh Raceway Park drag strip. The same place I went before!
Cool. Wish we could have something like that here. Everyone’s abitch scared to run their car.
They’re either scared they will break, or they are scared they will be slow. It’s annoying. Everytime we try to get a big group together, we end up wit the same 6 guys lol.
Remind me again where you are at?
Canada
Not in Canada, but I’m one of those guilty people. I’m always afraid I’ll break something. Too damn expensive to fix.
