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Mugello looks nice. Looks best with Ti package though
Guess that one will be pretty much off limits though, now that it has been tainted.
My porsche builder just posted this on face space.
“Audi Day at Cantrell”
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New PES blower I take it?
looks like the old one
M90 RS4 kit. Or maybe M112. But the old one for sure. a.k.a. epic failure vs the JHM setup
Mugello looks nice. Looks best with Ti package though
Guess that one will be pretty much off limits though, now that it has been tainted.
I am not that familiar with the PES supercharger kit, but it is absolutely no surprise that it had major problems. A few years back I fell under the charm or lack thereof of Tony at PES. Paid him a large sum to install headers exhaust and tune my w211 e55. The car came back and just didn’t feel as strong as I expected. I took it to a dyno shop and had OE tune it. I baselined with the Tony tune at 426 whp (on a heartbreaker dyno). Jeremy made a few touches and I ended up the day at 511 whp. Just from re-tuning what was already supposed to be a performance tune. The car was running basically no timing with the PES tune. Jeremy put a strong safe tune on it that saw 100s of passes at the track with never an issue. I am honestly surprised PES is still in business and personally they couldn’t pay me to run a sc kit on my rs4.
Yeah they went all the way extreme at first, and killed cars
Then they pulled back on the reigns on tuning to their detriment
In between though they still managed to kill cars with bad hardware. They also used undersized Eaton m90 superchargers on the rs4 that added maybe 20 whp over stock…for $13,000!
So yeah…shocking they are in business. Just shows that customers are not informed. For every post like this one that outlines reality, there are sites like audizine and a5oc where PES pay the site owners to snuff the truth out, and the site owners willingly protect them. Having no moral compass and choosing modest sums of money over the wellbeing of your thousands of subscribers as someone running a discussion forum is a dangerous thing.
Another Piece of Expensive Shit disaster story!
Patrick is now a member on this site…What do you have to say about this one Patrick?
I am not that familiar with the PES supercharger kit, but it is absolutely no surprise that it had major problems. A few years back I fell under the charm or lack thereof of Tony at PES. Paid him a large sum to install headers exhaust and tune my w211 e55. The car came back and just didn’t feel as strong as I expected. I took it to a dyno shop and had OE tune it. I baselined with the Tony tune at 426 whp (on a heartbreaker dyno). Jeremy made a few touches and I ended up the day at 511 whp. Just from re-tuning what was already supposed to be a performance tune. The car was running basically no timing with the PES tune. Jeremy put a strong safe tune on it that saw 100s of passes at the track with never an issue. I am honestly surprised PES is still in business and personally they couldn’t pay me to run a sc kit on my rs4.
Yeah they went all the way extreme at first, and killed cars
Then they pulled back on the reigns on tuning to their detriment
In between though they still managed to kill cars with bad hardware. They also used undersized Eaton m90 superchargers on the rs4 that added maybe 20 whp over stock…for $13,000!
So yeah…shocking they are in business. Just shows that customers are not informed. For every post like this one that outlines reality, there are sites like audizine and a5oc where PES pay the site owners to snuff the truth out, and the site owners willingly protect them. Having no moral compass and choosing modest sums of money over the wellbeing of your thousands of subscribers as someone running a discussion forum is a dangerous thing.
Another Piece of Expensive Shit disaster story!
Patrick is now a member on this site…What do you have to say about this one Patrick?
Sorry, meant to post this here and not the other thread.
What are most forum members thoughts on the required cutting to install the JHM kit? I know these cars aren’t museum pieces, but at the same time they are relatively rare and just the thoughts of cutting into the unibody definitely irks me. Unfortunately, this seems to be the best kit currently available so do you just suck it up and deal with it?
You sound like you are quoting fat bensti
Give me a fucking break.
The ‘cutting’ is of the overlap on the corner of where the end and the bumper support goes…and you are cutting a corner off the size of a fucking dime.
Someone post the picture up, please. This is so ridiculous.
I leave this here….TOO
I personally don’t understand the big deal, and it’s trimming (most would be surprised at how little)…your not hurting the structural integrity of the car so the people crying “cut into the unibody…how could you?” are complete idiots. DO we really think JHM would screw with the safety and integrity of the frame.
Let’s look at it this way…#1 your already supercharging the car…so you aren’t to worried about warranty. Supercharging is also going to turn away some potential buyers, but those are usually guys that want an un molested care that wasn’t beat on. It doesn’t matter what supercharger you use or if you had to modify a piece of the car that you can barely even see. #2 once the JHM charger is on, how many people are going to remove it before resale? that doesn’t even make any sense, and when it is on everything looks professionally installed (as long as you take your time cutting)
The only people worried about the cutting are JHM bashers and scared little QW folk, not people who want the BEST and truly care about reliability and performance.
Kryptonik got AMD supercharged and disappeared from AR like a fart in the wind…
weird…
Does this car look hacked up?? or that it’s resale value has decreased by $30k?…nope, but I’m labeled a fanboy
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Sorry, meant to post this here and not the other thread.
What are most forum members thoughts on the required cutting to install the JHM kit? I know these cars aren’t museum pieces, but at the same time they are relatively rare and just the thoughts of cutting into the unibody definitely irks me. Unfortunately, this seems to be the best kit currently available so do you just suck it up and deal with it?
You sound like you are quoting fat bensti
Give me a fucking break.
The ‘cutting’ is of the overlap on the corner of where the end and the bumper support goes…and you are cutting a corner off the size of a fucking dime.
Someone post the picture up, please. This is so ridiculous.
Calm the fuck down!!! Seriously what the fuck is wrong with you? I asked a simple question. I have seen the pictures. I know exactly what is involved. It was a simple question as i decide which supercharge kit to install on my car and yes j am heavily leaning toward jhm even if it means having to deal with douchebag fanboys like yourself. No matter how big or small I have never been a fan of cutting on my car and was just curious as to other members thoughts. That is it. A relatively small matter for you to get so upset over.
I leave this here….TOO
I personally don’t understand the big deal, and it’s trimming (most would be surprised at how little)…your not hurting the structural integrity of the car so the people crying “cut into the unibody…how could you?” are complete idiots. DO we really think JHM would screw with the safety and integrity of the frame.
Let’s look at it this way…#1 your already supercharging the car…so you aren’t to worried about warranty. Supercharging is also going to turn away some potential buyers, but those are usually guys that want an un molested care that wasn’t beat on. It doesn’t matter what supercharger you use or if you had to modify a piece of the car that you can barely even see. #2 once the JHM charger is on, how many people are going to remove it before resale? that doesn’t even make any sense, and when it is on everything looks professionally installed (as long as you take your time cutting)
The only people worried about the cutting are JHM bashers and scared little QW folk, not people who want the BEST and truly care about reliability and performance.
Kryptonik got AMD supercharged and disappeared from AR like a fart in the wind…
weird…
Does this car look hacked up?? or that it’s resale value has decreased by $30k?…nope, but I’m labeled a fanboy
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