S6 catback options

A6 All/ S6 All
#2

I think the JHM exhaust is made to order. Did you try emailing them at V10@jhmotorsports.com

The reasons that both the exhausts you posted are not popular is that your basically paying a ton of money for a stock sized exhaust system and non res will drone and get to the point where people have either went back to stock or paid extra to mess around with the exhaust by adding resonators to not sound bad at part throttle speeds. Most people find that the smaller exhaust system like these cant find a good mid ground like you get with the much larger 2.75 inch jhm exhaust.

These smaller exhaust systems sound too quiet with resonators on them and sound terrible without them. This is why you never saw or hear any good reviews of the past V10 exhaust offerings.

#3

No good reviews? There’s nothing but good reviews on both systems. More than a dozen videos of the Miltek on the youtubes. From what I’ve read, they sound good, but add no performance.

ECS is running a special with free shipping; $1500 delivered is awful tempting! The SS looks a better quality in the pics anyway. I gotta slow down on the spending! lol I’d sincerely rather buy a catback than hack up the factory pipes after a bit of consideration. I like having the option of swapping back to factory.

#4

LOL LOL LOL… Nothing but good reviews.

http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=4313.0;topicseen

You litterly just posted in a thread where the owner wanted to change the exhaust to make it more appealing. There are lots of threads even on here with people not happy with there milltek exhaust. And both systems there are so many good reviews on… almost one one has the supersprint exhaust…

So I guess our versions of nothing but great reviews differ. Also try looking at the reviews of the second owers that dont have to justify the hefty price tag by telling themselves how great the exhaust is. You will notice a trend. When people get the milltek exhaust system for free the reviews are very different.

I dont care to argue. Im just passing on what several of us have seen over the past few years. This is why more people just ended up hacking up there stock exhaust. If you want to spend all that money on something that is the same pipe size as stock thats your choice. Performance wise people have seen the same results from just hacking up there exhaust and putting in the X.

Milltek and supersprint have gotten a bad wrap over the years from performance minded individuals when the exhaust systems have actually been tested.

Just trying to pass on some help as that looked like what you asked for.

#5

whooooaahhhh - didn’t mean to rustle your jimmies! Your advice is welcome, and appreciated. Is it possible you’re reading too far into my response? Wasn’t meant as an attack or remotely as snark. I haven’t been on the scene as long as most of you here; I’ve no idea what the history was 5-6years ago, only what I’ve found through recent research/youtube search hits.

[quote]the second owers that dont have to justify the hefty price tag by telling themselves how great the exhaust is
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probably spot on. Noone overspends and then says it was a stupid choice; it’s the same as admitting you’re stupid… I went back and looked at the one for sale in OKC - definitely SuperSprint cans; no idea if it was the resonated version or not, but I’m guessing so since it wasnt that loud, but sounded really really good when you got in it or downshifted manually it was resonated.

Not keen on dropping $1500 on something I’ll end up replacing later anyway. Just wish JHM’s was a little more…available.

#6

Its hard to feel out responses on the internet.

MY LOL wasnt a troll LOL but an adult chuckle when I remembered you just posted in a thread that was kinda not a good review.

Not a big deal I have just seen several guys over the years in the S4 and S6 now have excitement over exhaust only to have buyers remorse. The market gets flooded with crap and sometimes when there isnt any options people just take what they can get. the supersprint and miltek are basiaclly stock exhaust systems with an X pipe. The mufflers are not great and they are the same size as stock.

The JHM exhaust is the only real performance and custom made for this platform exhaust. With such low production numbers I think its a build them as they are ordered kind of thing. If you check the V8 S4 section you will see rave reviews on the exhaust as it almost the same thing for the S6 and you find in the B7 RS4 from JHM. The RS4 JHM exhaust is 2.75 with the same mufflers and resonators. The RS4 guys praise that as the single best exhaust for those cars. in both performance and sound. I too love the sound. Obviously the 5.2 will have a slightly different tone but that JHM exhaust sounds like music to me

in the begginning JHM made the Rs4 exhaust systems as a made to order until they went into production. I dont know how this will play out for the S6 but if you ask me. The JHM exhaust system is woth the money for both the performance and sound.

#7

There are tons of rave reviews on the JHM exhaust for the RS4

Sakimano has a lot of good exhaust vids but this one is my fav

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HIzA5oHBY1Q

#8

I hardly consider this a bad review for the record;

[quote]I am on the fence as the exhaust sounds great, maybe a bit deeper than I prefer but I don’t know if the non-resonated would be more high pitched (F1 like)
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I stand by what I said before; there’s only good reviews of both systems, great sounding sound clips and the only serious negative after all the biased commenting is there’s no increase in performance over stock :wink:

now, if I could get an answer about price/delivery time for a jhm catback… :smiley:

#9

Intro pricing is $1895

You will have to contact them directly for leadtime.

Here is an excerpt from an email sent out by JHM on Nov 19th

[i][b]JHM 2.75" S6-S8 V10 FSI Catback Exhaust

Why 2.75 Inch piping diameter? After much research, calculations, testing and development we found that based on the 5.2L V10 FSI engine’s demands, 2.75 Inch piping diameter is the optimal size. With a 2.5 inch exhaust you end up choking off the free spinning V10. We have also found with a 2.75 inch cat back that torque is not sacrificed for power gains in the top end of the RPM band.
Why an X-pipe? Naturally Aspirated V10s always make more power with an X-pipe. The location and size of the X-Pipe in the JHM Cat-Back Exhaust System has been meticulously researched and developed to produce the best scavenging of the exhaust pulses coming from either side of the motor. The location of our X-Pipe also gives the V10 motor a cleaner, more refined tone.

NOTE: We are in the process of streamlining the manufacturing of this exhaust system. Please call us or shoot us an email to place your order!
INTRO PRICING: $1895

Sales@JHMotorsports.com
209-968-0077[/b][/i]

#10

That intro pricing is for the holiday sale only.

#11

…I wholly blame Justin for forcing me to spend $2k way before I wanted to.

He’s quite a bully.

Now that I have no wallet patience, lets see if I can wait till what, end of January? driving a mostly silent vehicle…

#12

Don’t worry, you’re not the only one that missed the sale lol. I ordered like a week and a half, maybe 2 weeks too early. Oh well. Can’t win 'em all. I still need to send them pictures of my intake spacers or just mail them back. I keep forgetting them at home.

#13

what are the asterisks supposed to convey? Is this like girls who put stickers on things? Or dot their i’s with hearts?

#14

Could you be a bigger douche?

Go play with the RS4 kids.

#15

Milltek… I actually purchased a used one I got a good deal on when I first got the S6, and then sold it after I did some research.

Milltek, like pretty much all the other tuning companies making S6/S8 v10 stuff a few years ago (prior to JHM getting involved) didnt make anything special for the v10. What they did, was take their C6 4.2 exhaust, and add an extra tip to each muffler, and modify the connecting piece at the other end of the catback. That is it… oh, besides jacking the price up an extra $500 (v10 tax)

Milltek 4.2

https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/697637_x800.jpg

Milltek 5.2

https://c1552172.ssl.cf0.rackcdn.com/698635_x600.jpg

Diameter of Milltek 4.2 exhaust 2.36"
Diameter of Milltek 5.2 exhaust 2.36"

Stock the 4.2 A6 makes 335 HP
Stock the 5.2 S6 makes 435 HP (450HP in the S8)

When maximum HP is directly related to exhaust diameter, how is it possible that a v10 5.2 engine, with a similar design, making 30% more HP stock than the 4.2 v8 , would require the same diameter exhaust for optimal performance?

Of course, the answer is it isnt possible. It is just another case of a company selling a product with little, to no, performance gain, a large price tag, and maximum profit due to the fact that they dont have to make any major changes to the 4.2 design, and can just order different mufflers and end pieces.

The non-JHM v10 ECU tunes are the same crap. Very little investment, minimal R&D, (and very little performance gain) in order to maximize profit.

In my experience, I have not seen a single S6/S8 v10 specific aftermarket performance product that I would purchase, that wasn’t made by JHM or the guys making prototype stuff for JHM. And at this stage in the game, with the cars being out for 10 years, I doubt that is going to be any different another decade from now.

#16

I stand by what I said before; there’s only good reviews of both systems, great sounding sound clips and the only serious negative after all the biased commenting is there’s no increase in performance over stock :wink:

now, if I could get an answer about price/delivery time for a jhm catback… :smiley:
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and for the record I never said it was a bad review. I said in a thread that was kinda not a good review. I originally said he wanted to change the exhaust to make it more appealing.

Again you can stand by what you want but technically. There are not ONLY good reviews. but as i said apparently people wanting to sell, change or get into a different exhaust because they dont like the exhaust for some reason isnt my version of a good review. Again not a argument more letting you know where I was coming from. My first post was never an attempt to troll you. I was just funnin with you…

#17

Great post I think this helps give some really good perspective.

#18

brilliant post by someone who has done their homework. Be careful however…you are sure to be labelled a ‘dickswinger’ for knowing the facts.

Funny thing though…the ‘dickswingers’ all have the parts that are on the fastest cars in every platform. Weird how that is, isn’t it?

Fastest B5 S4
Fastest B6 S4
Fastest B7 A4
Fastest B7 S4
Fastest B7 RS4
Fastest C5 A6 4.2
Fastest C5 A6 2.7T
Fastest C6 S6
Fastest C6 A6 4.2

Either we buy the best parts from the company that makes the fastest cars because we’re dickswingers…or we buy the best parts from the company that makes the fastest cars because they’re the best parts that make the fastest cars.

The truth is, some people will say anything to discredit something if it doesn’t fit their milltek/supersprint narrative.

#19

Here’s the key point/statement you miss sak - When you’re good at what you do, your efforts speak for themselves. CV’s more than proven himself. Truly, he doesn’t need you as a fanboi, but if nutswinging is your thing, cool man I get it.

[quote]The truth is, some people will say anything to discredit something if it doesn’t fit their milltek/supersprint narrative
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I truly have no idea what you’re on about with this statement. You bash one thing to lift another thing up? That’s lame. Perhaps you should grow up and read to understand what someone’s saying rather than just reply trying to be cool. Unlike the very helpful posts above, you’ve really nothing positive to contribute.

Weird how you once again feel the need to promote a brand that NOONE is saying isn’t the best. Or even bad. Tell me more how great it is. Really. You’re like tarzan these last few posts with the nutswinging. I get it. JHM and CV are the best of the best of the best, sir! Everything else is trash and bringing anything up or trying to have a discussion of anything outside what you say is awesome make someone an idiot and a moron and will receive only the bestest most well thought out gudpoasting from the most glorious sakimano.

Why discuss objectively pros and cons when you can just ad hominem? Good effort. :golfclap:

#20

again, why is it ‘bashing one to lift another up’?

I don’t understand that? Why would I have an agenda? I’m sharing facts. Those exhausts are louder, and that’s about it. Virtually zero performance gains, and zero research or thought has gone into designing them. That’s not bashing…those are facts.

And why must it be ‘to lift another’? Perhaps that’s how you operate…but I don’t.

If JHM didn’t exist I’d still bash the terrible other options. As I did/do in the B8 S4 space when companies are full of shit, sell crap and try to fleece people like you. JHM has virtually zero B8 S4 performance parts that matter. No exhaust. No tune. Yet I have bashed the crap EPL tune and the performance-wise-worthless exhausts. Did you miss that?

If something is crap, the people on this site will talk about it. There needn’t be a hidden agenda. We’re just brutally fucking honest.

In case you haven’t noticed, this site has no sponsors, no paid moderators, no nothing that will influence discussion of any topic. The sooner you realise we’re having a discussion about facts, the better off you’ll be.

#21

also…anyone else know who compugeek5150 is yet? It’s funny that he’s ‘new’ to the scene…but he’s not new to the scene. Maybe he’ll tell us his other name.