Shoot-the-Shit Thread

Haha that’s a funny story. It’s interesting how the music industry plays such a role in what gets written, at least pre-mp3 era. I always think of ‘Have a Cigar’ by pink floyd. I’m dating myself, but I remember in middle school when grunge came out in the mainstream, pearl jam, soundgarden, STP, Nirvana. At the time I didn’t really care much about guitar playing in terms of solos and musical content, but more loved the “fuck this” barre chords and nasty solid state amp distortion. Good times learning smells like teen spirit ;D

Around that time I actually had a guitar teacher who tried to teach me using the same kind of method books you get in band class (hot cross buns and yankee doodle). I hated it, never practiced and pretty much locked the guitar in a closet. Wasn’t till late high school that I picked it back up, finally came around when I tried to learn purple haze and the solo to nothing else matters :o

Psychotik what head is that? And what 2x12 cab is that one?

The head is a THD UniValve “Lefty”:
http://www.thdelectronics.com/product_page_UniValve.html

It’s a “Lefty” because the text on the face plate is backwards (like a “lefty” guitar) - which I thought was hilarious.

It’s a great amp. THD is a company based in Seattle, WA and the amps are hand made here. I wanted a Class A amp that I could experiment with various vacuum tubes (to get the sound I want). This amp allows you to mix and match all three tubes. And this amp is LOUD! It was louder than my buddy’s 30w tube Orange head via a Marshall 4x10 cab. Only gripe I have is that it’s two channels but based on which jack you plug in (there’s a “Rock” input, and a “Roll” input). I think it’s also louder than the 50w Marshall tube head I had as well (when cranked).

The cab is a Marshall 1936 Lead 2x12 cab (made in UK). I’ve swapped out the speakers for UK-made Celestion G12H speakers (was chasing the classic hard rock sound).

Here’s some pics.

Face plate:

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/31/f23cc5d6aa6c6253f742536e3db63108.jpg

Cover off:

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/31/6367d7735cc39623f1bfd07e7166715b.jpg

Tubes:

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/31/7ffdec5482daea9c5b30900253b8bd77.jpg

Back panel:

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/31/5efbc544f26a43dd89e6d2bcbf571373.jpg

Wiring and boards:

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/31/baff00d7b81b86908a0e4341fb15b0e6.jpg

Tube glow:

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/31/5e653c6e6de21566fa551dda2352ead8.jpg

My stash of tubes (the good stuff are in boxes lol):

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/03/31/3f4af2ed35ad0d2926e4a4b5e9687302.jpg

Which Marshall head did you sell? I’m looking around for something right now.

I had a Marshall JVM 205H. It was the 50w version. It was alright. I like the THD much more (think it sounds a lot better too).

What are you going to use the amp for? There are a lot of high quality single power tube amps out there if it’s for home playing. But if you’re going with solid state, it doesn’t matter as much if you buy a high wattage amp. For tube amps, the higher the wattage, the higher the “headroom” (which means the harder you’ll have to drive the signal to get “break up” - the over driven sound).

I need to fix the gain channel tube(s) on my Fender Hot Rod deluxe. Might need to ping you for advice.

I don’t know how the hell you guys play on those cabs inside. The hot rod is rated around 40 watts I believe, maybe a 12" speaker. Can’t imagine trying to push the clean channels to get that natural SRV distortion you hinted at (‘break up’). But my amp didn’t have balls to play outside unmic’d back when I was in some bands. If I was actually serious about things, would have invested in a head/cab setup at that time. But didn’t have any money while in school lol

it’s for playing at home, and it’s definitely going to be a tube amp. 100w is overkill…you can’t really play a 100w tube amp in your bedroom effectively without making your ears bleed. That’s unfortunate because that’s what’s mostly out there in heads. Combos you can get more appropriate power.

but I really like overkill lol

The THD UniValve has a built in HotPlate attenuator. :slight_smile:

If I play with the amp dimed, everything in my room starts rattling lol. Sounds awesome though.

For tubes, I buy them from a company in Portland, OR called Eurotubes. It might be a bit more than other places, but they test their tubes out and categorize them accordingly. They sell high quality stuff. I emailed them before ordering letting them know what i was trying to achieve sound wise and they’ll make recommendations.

lol!

I was considering the Orange AD30HTC head for the longest time before I bought the THD UniValve. I might still get one at some point (I kinda miss having a foot switchable channel). Was there any type of features that you were looking for?

After owning the Marshall JVM 205H, I decided that I didn’t want a buttload of effects or anything. In fact, I usually plug straight into the amp without a pedal (well, apart from a tuning pedal). Occasionally I’ll bust out my Jimi Hendrix fuzz face pedal.

Holy crap thanks Bro

And to contribute to shooting the shit about axes - oh yeah tube amps are a bit of a conundrum - such a great metal sound however I’ve found that they basically skip from “0” to “3” on volume setting. Meaning either it’s emitting no sound at all or it’s moderately blowing your head off. No smooth sound delivery of the solid state amps. But worth it.

My setup in that film was an LTD EXP200 with EMG 81/81 into a Digitech GSP2101 into a Peavey “Classic 60” tube power amp into a Marshall 1960A. I had the Digitech on a setting with loads of effects running so not very Metallica-ish. In fact it kind of masked the fact that it’s an all-tube setup. But sounded cool in person.

My current setup is pretty simple - ESP LTD Snakebyte with EMG JH set straight into a Mesa Engineering Rectoverb 50 watt tube combo. No stomp boxes whatsoever. And it sounds pretty darn Mettallica-ish. My gf filmed me on her phone here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAgDZJ58NrM

You have a $1500 guitar that you don’t really like, and you barely play it?

Sell it. Buy some drums lol. Or trade it/sell it and buy another guitar that’s more interesting.

In other news, I was checking out a few guitars at a local store. I just flat don’t like the Les Paul. I love the look of a cherry burst Les Paul, there’s probably no other more iconic image that says guitar than that. A couple of things were a bit annoying

  1. the body is so heavy that when you’re sitting down, it always wants to slide off your thigh. I’ve never noticed that with another guitar before. pretty neat. Maybe the weight reduction models are better.
  2. the rear of the body has that sharpish edge and no bevelling, and it just digs into your ribs if you’re leaned over the guitar, if you’re forced to look at the fretboard like I am when learning new stuff. After 10 minutes playing it, I reckon I’ve got a bruise there lol

Neither of these matter if you’re standing up, but at home I tend to sit.

The sound was awesome. It was neat measuring the sustain vs. other guitars. There is also a little more anger in the tone, so that’s obviously great.

Interestingly there were 1600 1959 cherry sunburst Les Pauls made, and only about 400 are accounted for. If you reckon there are a few hundred that were destroyed over 60 years, there are still 500-750 of them out there unaccounted for. Every year one or two turn up in estate sales and attic clearouts. Would be pretty amazing to find one (and the half million dollars they sell for)

It was a gift, and I guess that post was just emo about losing the G&L that I spent so much time with. I still love guitar and would hate selling something like that. You might have a point if I owned 10 guitars of varying value. But a single electric guitar is no biggie in my opinion. I could just add a drum kit if I could make it work (although I tried to do rock band on PS3 for this lol).

It depends on which “Model” of Les Paul.

The sustain is great because it’s a set neck (rather than a bolt on neck). Folks have preferences (I prefer set - but I’ve loved a few bolt on neck guitars as well). For example, if you break a set/through neck (or the head), you’re kinda boned - can be repaired but probably wont sound/feel the same way. With a bolt on guitar, just unbolt and bolt on a new piece.

The wood of the body really colors the sound too. I LOVE mahogany bodied guitars. It’s just a “darker”/“deeper” sound. (the Les Paul has a Mahogany body - with Maple top). I’ve had Ash/Alder bodied guitars (both with single coil pickups as well as humbuckers) and they just sound too bright for what I like.

For Mahagony wood tone, think of the great Gibson guitar players - Angus Young of AC/DC, Jimmy Paige, Slash, etc. For Ash/Alder, think of the Fender players - Jimi Hendrix, SRV, Ritchie Blackmore, etc. It’s not to say one is more suited than the other for various types of music, it’s just preference.

Beyond that, pick ups and amp dictate the sound (both are very much replaceable - less so than body/neck type).

Then there’s the play-ability aspect of it. The Les Paul can be pig heavy. There’s actually three body types. One is the “Solid” which would be crazy heavy - but have the best tone. Then there’s the “Traditional Weight Relieved” that’s commonly known as the cheese holed ones (there’s 9 holes routed into the body). My LP is Traditional weight relieved. Then there’s the modern routed one which is essentially like a semi-hollow with a solid maple top (which a lot of traditionalists scoff at). But it’s an effort to keep things light.

Their Custom Shop Les Paul get’s first dibs on wood choices. They’re typically solid bodied, but are light weight (lighter than the traditional weight relieved ones as well as the routed ones). But you pay for the guitars. :slight_smile:

I went with Traditional Weight relieved (9 cheese holes) because I wanted the heft for sustain/tone. I was actually fortunate too because my guitar was less than 10lbs. Typically, they’re heavier.

The nice thing with Gibson guitars is that they have a Nitro Cellulose finish vs a Poly finish that pretty much everyone else uses. It’s thinner and smoother to feel and let’s the wood breathe. But again, preference. One thing I don’t like about the Les Paul is that it’s hard to play (for me at least) when you get high up in the frets (15-17 onwards). lol that’s when you start doing the thing Slash does by playing the guitar vertically.

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Check out some of the Ibanez Prestige guitars. They’re made in Japan. Specifically, check out the RGA (RG shape with a contoured from) or the “S” series. They’re both Mahogany bodies (regular RG isn’t). Very comfortable body. Neck is super thin (if you don’t like the baseball bat contours). Sounds great (stock pick ups are junk - kinda a joke with Ibanez, swap em out for something else). Great price for what you get.

I had a REALLY nice RGA Prestige that I sold to fund my Les Paul mods. I regret selling that guitar so much…

https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-VN7ohDQie2E/S7khfov396I/AAAAAAAAAWE/7_E1v7ZHO-o/w1152-h768-no/IMG_7528.JPG

I swapped out the pickups for some good Seymour Duncans (I had the one that Van Halen used to use in the bridge, and a really nice sounding one for the neck).

Yea a lot of shredders play Ibanez guitars, always need those extra couple frets lol. Satch, Steve Vai. I always hated floyd rose setups though, never really liked to dive bomb like van halen and they are a PITA to do alternate tunings. Any of you guys like to play slide, I have an extra old ibanez with a nasville style bridge that I had as a dedicated slide guitar.

I’ve had two floating bridge guitars. A Fender US Standard Stratocaster and a Ibanez RG Prestige (I had two prestiges at one point). The Ibanez one was superior because of the locking nut. But yeah, retuning was a pain. And changing tuning would then upset the balance of the bridge - adjust one string = adjust all strings.

I’ve been eyeballing ESP LTD Eclipse guitars lately. EC1000 is pretty excellent HOWEVER they are RIDDLED with abalone. Most of them. A couple models aren’t but they’re hard to find. It’s like something a rapper would own…or an old lady festooned in jewels. And many of them have gold hardware…WTF were they thinking there.

The EC401/500 are same hardware other than tuners (1000 has locking ESP tuners, 401/500 has grover…no big deal)

Both guitars are same pickups, same mahogany body, same rosewood fretboard (although one of the versions…the vintage black…has an ebony fretboard)

They both have EMG 81/60 pickups which I’m looking for. I was actually thinking of upgrading the pickups in another guitar, but with labour, we’re at like 300 bucks, so I may as well buy another guitar (great justification).

They are the same shape as a Les Paul, but contoured on the back and a bit lighter (by the way…I do have a bruise from playing the LP the other day ;D). I like em. They’re a modern take on the classic, most of the changes the Gibson people and community would freak out about. I think stuff like that is funny. IT’s a guitar. Make it look cool, make it sound great, and quit worrying about tradition and bullshit.

ESP LTD EC-1000 Flamed Maple top (nice one without the gaudy shit). They’re mahogany body/neck.

http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files/esp/product_images/000/016/154/xlarge.png

ESP LTD EC-1000S Straight Black

http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files/esp/product_images/000/010/162/xlarge.png?1389980851

ESP LTD EC-1000 (yikes!)

http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files/esp/product_images/000/010/128/xlarge.png?1389980690

Then there’s the 401/500 which as I mentioned…I can’t really see the big delta pricewise. There’s flamed maple options and all sorts. I am partial to the white, or the black flamed maple.

ESP LTD EC-401

http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files/esp/product_images/000/010/218/xlarge.png?1389981127

ESP LTD EC-401FM

http://cdn.growassets.net/user_files/esp/product_images/000/010/230/xlarge.png?1389981185

p.s. we own this thread now. THis is the guitar thread now.