So back from the dragstrip... still #2...

B8 S4
#1

Well I went back to the strip yesterday…

Big change was that APR made me a custom race gas tune to try…

Car: 2010 Audi S4 - DSG with sports dif, 5,500 miles, 1/8 tank of gas, tools and spare removed
Mods: APR beta race gas tune, APR pulley, LFC’s, miltek non-res exhaust, custom intake, APR CPS, front and rear sways, BBS CHR’s

Conditions: 40-48F, 50-70% humidity, 30.4 BP… DA was 0-300… Great DA but too cold of a track

Got a total of 4 runs in for the day… Unfortunately, I didn’t beat the 11.88 that was posted on AZ but I did run another 11 second pass on my second run…

Run 1: I debated on tire pressure with the weather and ended up going 40f 34r… big mistake! DA was about 0 as I mentioned above, it was cold and the track was very cold… They had it prepped well but it didn’t matter… They let street cars go first which they probably should have had the slick cars go… anyway, car spun like crazy, got squirrelly and only cut a 1.78 60ft… see vid and slip…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ANMg8098NOs

http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af247/concordslim/IMG00202-20111105-1550.jpg

Run 2:
I dropped the tire pressure 36f 30r with the DA still near 0 and the track being cold… Spun a little bit but not as bad as the first run… Ran my best ET of 11.99
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izfXrz_cF1s

http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af247/concordslim/IMG00203-20111105-1551.jpg

Run 3: I dropped the pressure to 34f 28r with the DA rising and the track temp rising… Got a good launch, unfortunately the 60ft light was frosted over so not sure of the 60ft time… ran a 12.02…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EvorCcLBxHU

http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af247/concordslim/IMG00204-20111105-1551.jpg

Run 4: Since I didn’t spin I kept the pressure the same and was rewarded with my best ever 1.64 60ft time… unfortunately, my 1-2 hung up and this cost me 2+tenths… Ran a 12.12 as a result…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZZiFvhV-oY

http://i1012.photobucket.com/albums/af247/concordslim/IMG00205-20111105-1551.jpg

So needless to say I was a little bummed… As I mentioned I was testing a new tune and thought I would post a better time… I think I needed to let it adapt longer but not sure… I have emailed the logs to APR and will see if they want to tweak the tune again this week or just have me try again next weekend… It got better as the day went and I am sure if the shift didn’t take a dump on the last run I would have went 11.8x, but I didn’t and that’s all that matters… Wanted to make a few more passes but my brother had to work and it was a good 2 hour wait as there was 250+ cars… So will see how we do going forward… 100% gutting these cats or getting headers for next spring! I am still trapping lower than I did last year! I know if I had headers I would be running much much better… Disappointed I didn’t run better but I dumped alot of boost and I think there is more left in the car as it sits… I’ll have some external vids later if I can figure this POS camera out… LOL

The logs really tell a story:
Run 1 average timing was 23 degrees with average boost of 12.2 PSI but I was bypassing an average of 14% of the boost! IAT’s were on average 33.7c so very very good…
Run 2 average timing was down slightly to 22.5 degrees on average but boost was 13.26 PSI and I was only dumping about 8%… IAT’s were still good at an average of 40.8c
Run 3 average timing was down again to 21.3 degrees on average and boost was 14.0 PSI and I only dumped 5%… IAT’s were up to 48.4c so still pretty good…
Run 4 average timing was down to right about 20 degrees on average but boost was up to 14.3PSI on average and IAT’s were at 53.7c
I saw as much as 16psi which is the highest I have seen but I was dumping boost almost all the time and not sure why… More than willing to share the logs if anyone wants to review them…

Discuss my slow times! LOL

#2

interesting stuff. I thought you would kill it with the great weather. would have been cool to see you try the regular 100 octane file as well and log it to see if it was more effective.

as for your trap speeds, I really don’t think I’d read too much into that. When you look around, they look like they’re where they should be, don’t they? The fact you were trapping 117 on stock downpipes is more the ‘anomoly’ to me. Hard to say though. The car is definitely accelerating better with the current setup but again, there still hasn’t been any discussion of what the car NEEDS exhaust wise so we can’t really comment, can we? We can guess, but frankly the 034 cars are the fastest cars out there, other than kevkev. Hard to fault them.

First car in the 11s = primetime on 034 HFC
Fastest pump gas car = jfonx on 034 test pipes (I think)
Second fastest pump gas car = 81bear on 034 HFC

I’d like to see a rundown of your stock downpipe/cat times vs. your 034 times, focusing on 1/8th ET and MPH vs. 1/4 ET and MPH. If those HFCs are really a big restriction, the data will show up in the second half won’t it?

Also, do you have a 3rd gear pull log (say 2000-7000 rpm) from last year vs. this year in similar conditions? That too would be interesting to compare something.

#3

Saki, Yeah I thought I would run better as well… Just couldn’t hook well and then the dumping of the boost… Will see what APR says and go back next weekend either way… I don’t see me running a 11.5 like kevkev did though w/o headers… The cats are hurting my top end for sure… Last year I was trapping 117+ w/o the pulley or cats… Conversly they are helping down low but I know headers would as well… I think I am going to buy a set this winter and then get them installed in early spring… I’ll just run collectors plates on the car like I do with my Mustang… Still can’t get over kevkev running a 11.5 as that is moving… Good times ahead for the platform…

#4

yeah 11.5 is pretty awesome. 11.59 or 11.50?..not sure.

Thinking about it though, he’s on 104 octane, he is adding meth to the mix, he has headers and is fully catless…and he has a manual transmission.

You are on 100 octane, stock manifolds, HFC and are on the DSG with it’s drivetrain loss and weird shift lags (like your 2-3 which still sounds like it slips).

Big gap in mods even though it doesn’t seem that way. Put him on pump and put you on pump and it would be interesting to see what’s up.

p.s. who tuned his car? Is APR tuning for meth now? I doubt that. To that end if you don’t tune around meth isn’t that kinda dangerous if you run out?

I still want to see what the fastest B8 cars run on pump gas.

#5

Yeah his slip is hard to read… I think it says 11.59 but not positive… sucks that it doesn’t show 1/8th et or mph either… Hopefully, he goes again and can get a vid as I would love to see the car make a pass…

Agreed having headers and no cats at all is the biggest delta… I doubt APR tuned for meth but since he is running the 100 tune with 104 gas and the meth it just ups the octane on the gas more and probably allows the ecu to run a little more timing and also doesn’t pull any timing… As long as he is running race gas he is fine but if he runs the race gas program on 93 and meth and runs out he could have issues… I don’t think the meth is helping him all that much IMO but who knows…

Yeah, I still want to run the 93 tune this year… will see if APR wants to tweak the tune again and if so I will give that a shot, if not maybe I’ll just run pump this weekend… Would like to beat my 11.97 so if they do retune it I gotta try! LOL

#6

jesus I just saw his slip. Where’s the rest of it? It’s a crop of about 1 square inch lol. Hopefully he posts the rest…and hopefully he disassociates himself from auditurd2.0T…that kid’s record is nothing but lies on the forums when it comes to quarter mile times.

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6214/6321334638_268b382c7a_m_d.jpg

Posting record setting times usually includes video and you need to post 2 full timeslips just to get on the list. that’s what we do in B6/7 land. I’m not sure what Arin does for the B8 list? I frankly don’t care. 11.5 is awesome. Hopefully we hear a bit more from kevin.

Anyway, anyone have any pics of his headers or anything? Would be neat to get a look at them and compare them to the other set(s) that are out there.

#7

Saki FTMFW! You the man! I think he was going to run an 11.2 next week or sooner… just needed to find the slip! ROTFLMAO

#8

god ron the 11.2 was so last week, he ran this next week…
http://i911.photobucket.com/albums/ac317/richib86/6321334638_268b382c7a_m.jpg

#9

Ron…change your thread title

BACK TO NUMBER 1 BITCHES!

lol

#10

man, he really picked up MPH on the big end. Custom headers FTW!

#11

wait till you see the 6.11 at 400 mph he ran in 4 weeks from now

#12

LOL! Thanks again for the good work Saki…

#13

Great job saki, even banned from the AZ you managed to scare him off -> http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/456697-Time-to-move-on!

Everyone seemed to love the post by 91 on Saki’s other post! http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/400241-Official-1-4th-Quarter-Mile-Drag-Strip-Times.?p=7008501&viewfull=1#post7008501

#14

Just saw this as well…

[QUOTE=kevkev9988;7008832]Holy damn! I just logged into the forum and WOAH!

Truth- My friend and I wanted to piss a few of you off. Truth would have came out eventually.

11.8 = REAL
11.5 = FAKE

I was so pissed off at a few on the forum, (Not going to post any names) due to some PM"S I received. So, I decided to come on here and piss some people off. As far as why I’m getting rid of the B8, How much money did I dump into this thing and all I can run is 11.8?

Think about all the firsts that my car has went through before any of you even thought about doing any of these thing’s to your cars, or how many mistakes I have warned you guys about and all I got was FLAMED! until they realized I was right cough meth * cough* jammers cough

I logged onto google and took the FIRST 11.5 timeslip I could find, I actually enjoyed this, felt like a good dump on a day I ate chinese food, just amazing. I wouldn’t go out of my way to edit or sit there looking for a timeslip because I didn’t care!

Well, I was caught, which was planned anyway. And I pissed off those that I planned, which means my plan = success.
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Ron = #1

#15

What a shady cat that kevkev dude is. WTF? How much time does he have in his day. F’me, I might be jealous he has time to dream this shit up.

#16

OMG I just read all that BS drama…Great catch saki…and congrats to Primetime for getting his spot back, but i suspect you would have liked the challenge of beating 11.5.

That KevKev guy needs some meds or a straight jacket…

#17

OK… after doing battle with Sony support and losing! LOL My 10 year old cammera is not supported by windows 7 I used my wifes POS pc to download my vid… No sound and it is stop and go… it’s bad… don’t flame me I know it’s bad! LOL I’ll get a better copy in another week or two after the season as I’ll take it somewhere and have it burned on CD… Figured I would share anyway…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znpWcFaIohc

#18

Primetime rides again. Sorry to hear about the drama with the fake wanta bee first place guys.

I agree with sakimano he is as sharp as they get. Fact of the matter is I like arin but if the guy has a APR chip he will post that they wen’t 10XX with just a word of mouth. There has to be more fact checking with that.

Ron still considering what you went threw thats still some great times. Glad to see your top of the list again. MAybe we need to make a AR list and keep it to the rules of how we do the S4’s. makes much harder for fakes.

All my 12.2 times you can call the track and they will verify them. Seems the B8 world is kinda like the B5 world the guys are as fast as you can manipulate the data.

great job prime glad to see you got your spot back

#19

Prime - that vid angle made the track look up hill, lol. Nice run and glad you are back on top.

#20

Here’s the post I made at Audiworld in case anyone’s confused.

I’d love to get a look at his other timeslip…the supposed 11.8 run. It has also been deleted from his flickr account, so I can only assume he did that so I wouldn’t be able to dig it up.

I have asked Arin for the times as he had them in his quartermile chart.

If anyone knows where to find that please post the info up. Now this douchebag’s buddies are saying ‘just spoke to kev…the 11.8 is legit’. Sure it is.

[QUOTE=sakimano;24221078]thanks Kris

Now…is everyone ready for the fireworks?

First off ATCO uses Compulink for their track timing systems. Same one my track uses. I’ve seen a bunch of ATCO slips and they look like this.

http://lh6.ggpht.com/_lJimlw_Qffw/TS1UK0ft1DI/AAAAAAAAAlU/q42soOrhrII/jon95c36amg.jpg

http://www.tinindianperformance.com/documents/Scott%20Rex%207.30timeslip%20april%202010.jpg

I noticed that the cropped timeslip kevkev posted looks NOTHING like that? Why?

So I thought maybe ATCO changed their system? We’ll give him the benefit of the doubt, right?

This is pretty damaging…this is a timeslip from this weekend at ATCO…same day KEVKEV claimed to go. They’re still using COMPULINK.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v249/BlueSS454/Atco%2011-5-2011/IMG_9914.jpg

Now…here’s the final nail in the coffin. I searched his exact time. 11.586 @ 119.766 on google. Ouch…

http://www.dragtimes.com/Mercedes-Benz-S600-Timeslip-3051.html

Turns out that’s the time posted by a RENNTECH Mercedes S600…4 years ago.

sakibombs hurt.

I’d like to thank auditude2.0T…he made me look into this by being a douchebag. kevkev…choose better friends. I’m sure this whole scam was cooked up by auditude. And Auditude? don’t **** with me. You know I will always win because telling the truth is easy. Telling lies like you makes you look like a scam artist and you just lost whatever credibility you DIDN’T lose the last 3-4 times I owned you for lying.

http://audirevolution.net/addons/albums/images/669154957.jpg
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