stratmosphere fail.

the real difference of the site is that there is no advertising. There’s no chance of being beholden to some company that sells garbage. If the site owners ever decide to allow advertising, they’ve already said it will be on their terms, and will be heavily controlled. The owners don’t need advertising…while the other sites would shuit down in 3 days if they had no advertising. That’s the huge philosophical difference.

AZ’s problem with putting advertisers before members is well documented. EA also had/has a problem with that. A great example was Stratmosphere was an advertiser, but they pulled out because EA’s population was almost entirely 4.2 based The 4.2 guys know what’s up with Stratmosphere’s Milltek 2.25 exhaust (lol), B6/7 shifters (lol) and intakes (lol).

In an EA thread, I pointed to Strat John that he had a bad habit of trash talking his competitors, often right in those competitors product threads (on AZ he loved to pop in and post fear mongering and lies about other companies competing products). He challenged this and called me a liar. I went ahead and copied over 13 examples of him shit-talking competitors in their threads…and he had an even bigger shit fit. Before the end of the day, EA’s site owner had deleted my post exposing Stratmosphere and Strat John, and a couple of days later Stratmosphere came back as an advertiser. Anyone think he just paid to have my truth about him being a scumbag deleted?

Here’s what I posted…

That was mentally the end for me on EA. You can see why he went quiet and wrote a cheque to make it go away lol

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http://www.euroaddiction.net/forum/showthread.php?p=69491#post69491

[quote=john;69478]We pulled sponsorship because this forum tends to be full of rampant hate…
…Ya know, like, I noticed in your quite detailed response that you entirely glossed over the parts where I asked you to back up your statements about my MO… The line between stating facts and making shit up! By not responding to it, you solidify that you have no basis. By claiming you have no time to do it, you showcase inability to find it. By saying you don’t have to, because everyone knows it, is still lying. I am calling you out.
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oh you don’t know me John…there will be examples. You’re just being impatient. Fear not. Your skeletons are coming out soon. Takes time to dig them up thanks to AZ’s awful search tool.
I deleted that portion because I wanted to respond to the rest of your post…but the bell will still toll for thee :smiley:
as for this being full of ‘hatin’…I say it’s full of ‘sorry no thanks…we know better’. Kudos if you give us something better and are moving our platform forward (whatever platform that is). It’s funny…nobody ‘hates’ the companies that makes good stuff. It just seems the people who complain about ‘haters’ are the ones whose stuff doesn’t sell/work. i.e. PES/VF/GSG etc…
OK…back to those examples of your fail. This was pretty easy…just look threw your 40-50 posts on B8 forum on AZ. Every thread you started was loaded with dirty lies and jabs at the competition. Thanks for making my point for me.

Integrity Fail #1 - fear mongering with the S5 guys, implying the JHM short shifter install is risky and will scratch up interior trim

[quote=StratJohn;4959387]Well see, I really don’t like scratching up nice trim, or prying things apart on new babies you know?
So I made this so you don’t have to. About 20 minutes under the car with basic tools. AS close to instant gratification as possible.
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Integrity Fail #2 - cracking jokes about JHM’s pricing. Not a big deal, but again…you reference them more often than you probably know. Never above board either…always sneaky jabs.

[quote=StratJohn;4964996]Jack I think the catch with that is anti-rotational channel on the OEM shifter. In which case it might be safer to obtain another shifter to modify. At which point you might as well get the S4 shifter. Which is probably more like a 20mm lower height- substantially more than the 1/2" I hear being tossed around… just sayin. I’m also pretty sure that an S4 OEM shifter and our short shifter will still be less costly than some alternatives!
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Integrity Fail #3 - Fear mongering again, this time with the A5/S5 guys, about the JHM part requiring one scratch up their interior[quote=StratJohn;4994352]Yep. $149. 45% reduction in throw.
Fast easy install without having to tear apart/scratch your pretty interior.
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Integrity Fail #4 - Fear mongering again. this time implying it’s ‘just shy of impossible’ to not wreck your interior if you buy a JHM shifter[quote=StratJohn;4994767]@DoolBozorg- Yes it will. It’s all MLP/MLB cars with the 6MT.
Seeing as I have seen one other company with only a prototype, and not even pricing, it would not be fair for me to make a bunch of assumptions.
But-

  1. Install:
    Our install, as seen in the video, took me 8 minutes. The car doesn’t have to be on a lift- you just need to slide under it.
    There is NO interior trim removal. Have you ever done that? It is just shy of impossible to casually remove that stuff without running the risk of damage.
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    Integrity Fail #5 - questioning ‘other tuners’ (JHM) ability .to engineer a quality part that improves upon the OEM part. The OEM part is designed for the entire spectrum of buyers, not just performance folks. There are compromises made in the OEM part as a result that ‘other tuners’ DO improve upon. This logic would imply NOBODY should buy a Strat airbox or a milltek exhaust, as you’re messing with the unbeatable OEM parts

[quote=StratJohn;4994767]2. Design:
A different approach. Audi engineers spent a lot of time and effort, more than any tuning company could ever offer, on making the OEM shifter long lasting, smooth operating, and ergonomically positioned.
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Integrity Fail #6 -Fear Mongering again, this time implying your interior will creak if you buy a JHM shifter and remove an interior trim piece for install.

[quote=StratJohn;4994767]3. Performance:
Its short. Precise. Clean. Smooth like butter. It doesn’t vibrate. Doesn’t make noise. Doesn’t make your center console creak, because you never had to remove it.
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Integrity Fail #7 - Implying JHM shifter install will take all day. See? There’s a horrible pattern of insecure, jabby fail here. [quote=StratJohn;4994767]4. Price:
$149 is awesome. Most B6/B7 short shifter average $250 and up.
Spend that $100 on two tanks of Premium instead. Or take your significant other out for a date.
You know, because you didn’t spend all day on the install.
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Integrity Fail #8 - shitting on JHM’s install guide, and making all sorts of fear mongering comments to scare people off buying the competitor’s product[quote=StratJohn;4994767]Cons? Honestly? Hah, I doubt many other companies will tackle this, but I will:

  1. It doesn’t change the height of the shifter (See #2, above).
  2. It doesn’t have multiple positions. Its just right.
    3. It’ll never result in a comically written DIY Install guide with profanity, trips to a hardware store, or repeated how-to question on the forum.
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    Integrity Fail #9 - talking all kinds of nonsense about the JHM shifter design. Ironic that you preface the comments with ‘I won’t attack my competitors here’ when the entire fucking thread has been you trying to negatively paint your competitor’s product in a bad light…and then in this post you do it again, despite the promise not to. Epic failure.
    [quote=StratJohn;4995381]I won’t try to attack my competitors here- but I will say this much: We effectively bypass the rubber bushing. There is no question to any aftermarket designer that the integrated bushing was a weakness. Our design eliminates its movement. That alone drastically changes the shifter feel in a positive fashion.
    As for the plastic ball: The OEM plastic ball pivot is suspended in a spring-loaded race. It doesn’t have play, or really any friction for that matter. Definitely less than a spherical bearing/bushing should. The vibrations that travel through the shifter parts are muted and stopped as the enter the shifter housing. By replacing that with a big heavy steel bearing, you’re introducing a stress factor that will inevitably damage the rest of the car before the shifter. Every time you snap through a gear hard, you’re effectively hitting a steel hammer against a plastic housing. No dice. I don’t want ‘mystery creaks’ or damaged console parts as a result of my product. Leaving the stock plastic ball in place and finding the real source of the sloppy shift was my priority.
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    Integrity Fail #10 - Again with the fear mongering about interior trim. You’re consumed with JHM[quote=StratJohn;4994298]
    45% reduction in throw.
    No interior trim scratching/destruction/removal at all.
    Install is super easy and fast.
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    Integrity Fail #11 - sticking it to JHM for…I don’t know, not being fast enough? I guess it’s a race to be first. Amazing you bring EVERYTHING back to JHM…shouldn’t you worry about your own product? You also reference ‘JHM crew’ coming in to hate. Actually I think you were getting called out for douchebaggery and your integrity failure by forum members/customers in the other thread…not haters. You start a thread about your product…you hate on JHM and their product…then people call you out for it. How on earth are they haters? Funny.

[quote=StratJohn;5226084]It’s true. There are no other short shifters on the market for our cars.
Remember, this shifter fits all B8 platform 6MT cars, and has been out for over two months already.
Thats like… over FOUR ‘two weeks’!
No waiting for final versions, no lack of updates. Just quality product in your hands… then on your car. Right now.

(Bets on JHM+crew bringing the hate in here? Pretty high.)
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Integrity Fail # 12 - Again jabbing the JHM install and interior trim removal with lies. [quote=StratJohn;5226634]Also since the fitment method is identical to the OEM components, your dealer should be able to pop it on nice and quick. No interior trim tear-apart of your new baby.
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Integrity Fail #13 - unlucky 13 , again jabbing the JHM product install with fear mongering. Also shits on a customer in the process. All the ‘try it, if you don’t like it, money back, no problem!’…which turns into making fun of the customer and tying in jabs at JHM. Such thorough insecure fail. I also love the ‘no hate’ wink. Sorry, that doesn’t undo the fail.

[quote=StratJohn;5318495]It would seem as he’d prefer the stock shifter…
…or is heading 70-80 miles east to have some guys tear his car apart and install something that doesn’t cut it for public consumption yet :wink:
(no hate. just a friendly poke)
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Integrity Fail #14 - recycling the same tired shit from the S4 forum, now for the S5 forum.

[quote=StratJohn;5226090]It’s true. There are no other short shifters on the market for our cars.
Remember, this shifter fits all B8 platform 6MT cars, and has been out for over two months already.
No waiting for final versions, no lack of updates. Just quality product in your hands… then on your car. Right now.
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Integrity Fail #15 - Fear mongering about Fast Intentions drone. The comlpiment on craftsmanship is nice…but you know damn well that B8 guys are terrified of drone ruining their experience. Your comment is like someone saying ‘that model’s face is fucking ugly, but she has really nice wrists and ankles’, then being surprised when they get slapped in the face.
[quote=StratJohn;5770133]There is -no- way that doesn’t drone.
But that is some pretty fantastic craftsmanship, for sure. Nice bends and welds.
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Integrity Fail #16 - Calling MTM a joke. While they had some trouble with voltron’s car, the other owners seem reasonably happy…i.e. the guy who walked an E9X M3 at a BMW club race event in Europe. Voltron’s APR tune made him gain 0. Is APR a joke? Or was it just something wrong with the part or the car? Also love the ‘not stirring anything up’, your standard line. Fail.

[quote=StratJohn;5743899]However, as everyone else can tell you here… the MTM product is a joke.
Anyways, not stirring anything up, just a view into the backstage parts.
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I’m sure there will be more. I’ll PM them to you and save KEVKEV’s thread from any further derailing

Isn’t this the same company that for years was trying to push there hot air intakes on people by pushing nothing more then dyno sheet after dyno sheet only to then years later be called out on how there intakes actually lots power?

sounds about right

this post was removed from a seperate thread and posted here by moderators today, just to clarify. It was in the AZ vs. AR thread.

Strat is such a fucking fail. I will make sure to take a look on AZ but I actually caught them in several lies.

They said putting a 2.25" exhaust on there in house S4 picked up .6 in the 1/4 mile only to months later say they have never been down the 1/4 mile. Further more the S4 already comes stock with a 2.25" exhaust… Strat is one of those companys that has no tallent but they have resorces to put junk together and then make it sound like its gold. When your standards are stratmosphereicly low standards anything must be a big deal no matter how big of a joke it is.

Strat is notorious for trying to get people to pimp them on line. Its clear in the 3.0 thread that they made for themselves because the owner clearly didn’t care enough to talk about the work done. No one talks about strat but strat because in short strat sucks. They keep trying to get in with people who don’t know there name. good thing for the members that the comunity has had enough of companys like them. PES VF and the othe companys that try to use the fact that they pay to advertise to make you think that they know more then you. When in short they don[t

that’s awesome (re the quarter mile lie). I love when these guys flap their gums and screw up.

truth be told, I bet they did go to the quarter mile, because there were one or even two strat guys with B6 S4s. Full milltek, and some lame tune, and off they went…to run 13.8 probably, and never tell anyone about it. That’s what happened with VF Engineering, and with pretty much everyone who comes up with excuses not to go to the strip. Oh they go…they just bury the timeslips when the results suck.

Stratmosphere is not a truly reputable company. Even on line they seem to be shaddy and desperate for sales. None of the above surprises me about them.

Understanding your limitations and knowing the boundries of your capabilities is pretty important as it will help prevent you from looking like an idiot. Pretty important for a business.

I just don’t think strat knows what they don’t know.

bumps for some reading and say farewell to hot air intakes