The JHM RS6-R Turbo Owners List

B5 S4/ RS4
#61

Focus Tweets. You’re attempting to put words in my mouth. That never ends well for anyone.

I agree that adding race gas will help if you’re on pump. If you’re pulling timing, it will help limit retardation. Awesome.

HOWEVER

It will NOT be a massive game changer unless the tune is taking advantage of it…and it is foolish to compare it to the gains that can be had by being TUNED for meth. I said it was a pump file. Race gas isn’t magic…if you’re on a pump file, it won’t make your car behave as if you’re tuned for race. It will just ensure that you get the most out of your pump file.

If I was there, or not, does it matter? This is basic tuning 101. You have been admonished on audizine for doing this already, as has killer. To describe your tuned-for-meth cars as ‘pump gas’ makes about as much sense as when Marc (10 second) used to say his car was on pump gas (E85) because it came out of a pump. To say that adding race to a pump tuned car is similar or the same as someone being tuned for meth and mentioning that is absurd. You know that. You’re just pretending you don’t.

p.s. speaking of who was or wasnt there…Were you at Ubly Dragway by the way when he went 11.7 @ 125? When he added race gas because he ran out of pump? because if I check the calender of your show tour, I think we’ll find that you weren’t. Can’t remember. When he was at Ubly it was fucking freezing cold. I doubt it was pulling tons of timing that the race gas fixed.

edit: damn tour was after that date. I still don’t think you were there ironically.

#62

I am focused Ian, here’s what I said am saying. You should mention any variables in the mix.
Here is what I was not saying: race gas in a car with a pump gas tune is the same as a car tuned for race gas, nor is it the same as a car tuned for any other octane additive. I was merely stating it helped the car, most likely 1-3 MPH.

So hypocritical of you to tell me not to put words in your mouth when you are attempting to do so in mine. Stop with the technicalities, that become your argument, which iron out to meaning the very thing your trying to say.

#63

We are saying the SAME thing and you’re arguing with me is the synopsis of my above frustration.

#64

I see two have been busy… Jeepers!

Reid, when I spoke to your bro, he indicated several people were going to be gathering parts for a 3.0 or a 2.8 build. Keep me in mind for this as he thought it might make sense for a group buy.

#65

Sure thing! Hunter isn’t looking to build anymore but, if you need anything P.M. me I can still get parts. Also 8urV8 normally has cranks on hand.

#66

3.0 built motor group buy…that’s got to be a first!

#67

No one is saying that Pump + Meth is not close to race gas. But it does have its differences.

We make 60-75WHP more with C16, and that is pretty significant.

[Quote] Posted by IAN
KillerS4 has used that as an excuse for JHM being so much quicker than him in the quarter mile.
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JHM is better at the 1/4, been doing it for a long time has a lot of experience and is able to eek out every last bit of speed from that platform. It is true he was able to achieve a lot more then I was with less HP.

If I wasn’t driving, or was able to achieve maximum potential from my car, I am sure it would be a different story.

So is Hunter going to fix his car and hit the strip? Or is he done for a while?

Hopefully someone not influenced by JHM who runs their kit on a full aggressive build will share the results. I really don’t want to see 1/4, I want to see ECUX plots. Hell an acceleration graph would be nice.

#68

Hunter’s car was fixed like 3 months ago. It’s just that he’s in Michigan and all the dragstrips are closed

He went to Ubly and set a solid trap and decent time for his mods.
Then he went to LaPeer for fun one day and ran similar times but their clocks were broken (LaPeer is ghetto as fuck).
Then the dragstrips in Michigan all closed for winter.

It’s funny how you think people being influenced by JHM is somehow going to taint the results. Ever notice that you are extremely influenced by AMD and EPL, yet you share your results…and when we call some of them out for being mediocre in some respects, you freak the fuck out and tell us we don’t know how to evaluate cars? That’s called irony.

There are a couple dozen guys with RS6r turbos out there. Nobody has any balls to the wall setups that are running yet (i.e. built motor etc). That’s understandable since it’s a relatively new option, and guys going built motor are likely being influenced by the shops doing the work to get something older for turbos and tuning.

A guy here named Zero Tolerance who started this thread has a car that’s taking it’s time being ready, but it should have a built motor etc. He has had some trouble with the shop that did the motor build though, so I imagine JHM will be very careful with his tuning to start.

Some other guy out in California posted logs already from his RS6r build and modest modlist. Everyone went daft when they saw the logs because they weren’t tuned the way they tell you to on steal-a-tune.net a.k.a. n e f m o t o

#69

Hahaha, the logs posted on AZ were a base file, it was respectable. Hunters car was fixed, yet still has a weird vibration in it at times. I would rather you not group me into the RS6R hating group because I have been very even keeled there. Call me an optimist or dreamer at worst :wink:

#70

Is it funny IAN? Really? This entire paragraph was unnecessary. I didn’t say TAINT, I wanted shared results.

As far as calling out AMD/EPL for being mediocre, you must be referring to 1/4 mile, since the logs are generally amazing.

#71

Yes calling them out for the one acceleration test that car people actually care about lol. They’re great at the dyno and log and 60-130 stuff.

#72

I honestly can’t see anyone hating rs6r turbos. Jhm has lots of haters though.

His car had some little problem. I believe Dan knew what it was but it wasn’t something they could fix. Ask him. He explained it to me while we chugged chicken mcnuggets at 4:30 am standing under the yellow car.

#73

I shouldn’t have said “group buy” its more like a handful of four that happen to be in a similar position regarding their future plans.

#74

Logs from my car as explained to me and appreciated based on safety, longevity and reliability. So far so good on all fronts and time will tell.

Would I like to eek out some more usable power? Sure. At the expense of being car less? Nope.

Hoping we can see more results from opening up my exhaust and w/m…soon enough

#75

I have 2 cranks available rods pistons and 2.8L heads available also i get a great deal on supertech valvetrain stuff!!!

#76

You will get quite a bit from meth and a better exhaust, especially the exhaust! They’re great turbos for a 2.7, no doubt about it!

#77

[quote=“sakimano,post:68,topic:3981”]
I didn’t spare any expenses with my build (had the motor rebuilt with forged rods and pistons) and purchased all the parts I honestly believed were of the best quality. The only thing I’ll be lacking when I hit the ground running is the top half of the engine - which is part of what I consider “phase 2”.

The replacement product I was waiting for arrived at J-Spec last Friday and I haven’t spoken or texted Jnaut since then. I haven’t bothered him but hopefully he’s made some progress.

And as mentioned, I’m sure the initial tune will be very relaxed as we already had a major incident on the very first 3rd gear pull during logging - which happened to be at 30lbs of boost. The car pulled insanely hard but that was that. That’s another discussion for another time.

Otherwise, Jnaut will be taking my car to PBIR to see what my money bought the car. So the car WILL be tracked, pboxed and all that nonsense. I want to know exactly what I paid for. I have VERY little doubt I’ll love the final product.

As a side note, Jnaut bought a B5 A4 1.8T that I may end up taking to do a 3.6 liter VR6 big single turbo build for fun. He’s already got another VR6 project he’s working on so I’m confident he’d be great for this potential endeavor.

#78

[quote=“Zero_Tolerance,post:77,topic:3981”]

Im doing a 3.6L VRT over the winter aswell

#79

[quote=“8URV8,post:78,topic:3981”]
I think the VR6 idea will work better for long-term ownership as it’ll be much easier to work on with a single turbo and potential can eclipse pretty much any twin turbo setup with the 2.7 even at 3.0 liters.

#80

Stick with the R8 idea before you get another project brewing. Tomorrow might be a nice cool night at the fastest track in the world.