the v10 s6 project

A6 All/ S6 All
#108

Thanks Storm… apology accepted.

In some ways, the aftermarket performance market is like the wild, wild west. There have been numerous instances of companies misleading and defrauding it’s customers. So, your caution is warranted.

In the case of the headers, I have been very clear with what can be expected. I would much rather under-promise and over-deliver, then leave people disappointed.

Compared to other available parts for the car, I am confident the headers will be a great value. From what I have seen, the single most popular mod for the v10 S6, up until this point, has been the Milltek exhaust, which costs $2k and adds very little to performance. For $2k, you get a nicer sound and some shiny tips. The headers will cost substantially more, but deliver so much more, as outlined earlier.

Car modifications are never an investment. With most mods, your money is gone the second after you install the parts. The cool thing about the headers is that, aside from the performance improvement, you also gain a car that is much easier to work on, when it comes to the upper cats and o2s. That change alone can save you thousands of dollars in the future.

Via PM, I have been answering a lot of detailed questions regarding the headers. Later today Ill try and make another post with answers to the common questions.

#109

You’re a good man, V8A6.

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#110

v10 S6 HEADERS - INTRODUCTORY PRICING

I just got the price today from the fab shop. Regular price for the headers will be $6899 (if available in the future). But, anyone who orders by June 30th, will get them at a special introductory price, which is our cost. PM me if you want details.

This may be the only time to get a set. As mentioned earlier, if we can acquire another v10 S6, then we may build more in the future. However, there is no guarantee that will happen. And obviously, in the future, the price will be much higher.

I am allowing the shop to use my car now, while the engine is out, to build these sets. This will delay me getting the car back an extra three months. In the meantime, I’m paying $200 bucks a month insurance on the car, but I’m not passing on this cost to the consumer. Ill cover the costs, so that people can have a chance to get a set beautiful headers at the lowest price possible.

Cheers!

#111

Guys if you are gonna do this NOW is the time this deal is fantastic!! You have to realize this is ground breaking dev work if we are ever going to get any kind of aftermarket we pretty much are going to have to do it ourselves. I am going to work really hard so I don’t miss out on this opportunity. Good luck with this!!!

#112

Thanks P!

#113

Catback pics added to page 1…

http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=3145.msg91290#msg91290

#114

The more I keep looking at the first posts the more I keep being reminded of just how big a project this is.

I’m posting this just because it’s awesome. Great exhaust system

http://ep1.pinkbike.org/p5pb12247802/p5pb12247802.jpg

#115

This car is going to fucking sound glorious!! I’ll unfortunately probably never hear it in person.

#116

Hahaha… that’s what I am hoping

Where are you located again? It currently lives in the Detroit area, but will be back in Canada hopefully before the end of the year.

But if I happen to win the lottery, it may just end up with JHM in California, while I beg them to adapt their Vortech kit to the car. Because, who doesnt need a supercharged v10 :slight_smile:

#117

Thanks man. The guys at the shop are true artists. So much work has gone into the car, and I couldn’t be happier with the way things are turning out.

As we have mentioned many times, the fundamentals for the performance piece of the project are all copied from the path established by the fast NA v8 S4 builds. At the same, it is so cool to see those principles applied to the v10 S6, in a whole new way. Especially since the car has been pretty much ignored by the aftermarket performance sector, up until now.

#118

Damn! That is so sexy! Seriously amazing project I sure hope I can get that money in time!!!

#119

the headers are truly the worst business idea ever. There’s a reason the only competitors are crap that is made in China (and doesn’t work because they do fuck all in the way of researching them)

JHM sells the S4 headers (V8) for around $2750. They literally hand made them for the last 7 years. It takes a dog’s age to make a set, and on top of this they use retardedly high quality stainless pipe and flanges etc. If they’re not perfect, they pretty much scrap them. When all is said and done after paying the welder to make them, they make a few hundred bucks. They tie up their fabricator for a bunch of hrs to do so, use space in his shop etc. All for a few hundred bucks that is pretty much gonzo if they wreck a set. On top of this, they wrecked about 10 sets when they designed them. There aren’t many around (not many guys have $2750 for an exhaust mod and want to do an engine pull to install them). So they take forever to recoup R&D

The S6? These will be financially worse if you can believe it.

So I get why people are like ‘let’s get some nice cheap ones like the LSX world’. That’s not happening. If you can make equivalent quality and performance headers to what JHM makes for say half the cost, JHM will buy 500 sets from you and sell them as JHM headers. But you won’t. Because you can’t.

#120

What a great post. All true. There’s no money in making these headers. There’s big performance but not big momey

#121

Definitely a great post.

As you probably know, I am giving people a chance to buy them at cost until June 30th. And still, I get the feeling that some people think we are making some profit on them. There isnt any profit with the current offer…not a dime.

Once the car is all bolted back up and on the road, I probably will arrange another group buy. But, the price will be higher, and we will need a minimum of five or six guys to make it happen. The people who REALLY want them, will get them now.

It is funny, we will probably sell a lot more catbacks, or even CAI, than headers. The headers are definitely the first place I would put my money (and the CountVohn tune). They resolve a lot of the critical problems with the car AND add a ton of performance. But, people are used to buying catbacks and CAIs. And they are a bit cheaper, and less labor. So that is what they’ll buy first. Not saying those arent great products, but the headers are the key piece to transforming the v10 S6 into something incredible.

#122

Looking great!! Are they going to sell the rest of the exhaust too?
I will let you know about the header purchase in 2 weeks.

#123

Thanks Nordy!

I think the catback (we keep calling it a catback, even though it actually goes further, and includes optional cats and O2 bungs) will be made available.

Right now, since it was built to match the headers, we could make additional sets that go with the headers.

However, to make a catback with an adapter that necks down to work with the stock exhaust manifolds, we would need someone with stock manifolds still installed, to bring their car in. Or, we buy a DEV car (if that ever happens).

In any case, if there is interest, let me know. Once my car is on the road and we have sound clips and performance data, I’m sure a lot of people are going to want the catback.

#124

I would love to go there. Just checked, and it is about a 90min drive from my Aunts place.

Problem is, I probably wont have a day pass until sometime in 2016. Dont laugh too hard, you’ll be in the same boat one day, B! LOL

#125

What you are doing is exactly what my plans were with my 08 s6 prior to a very unfortunate accident. I did a full custom x pipe exhaust at 2.75 diameter (to perserve tq) from the mid all the way to the stock mufflera. Also did msds or mss filters, new intake and new manifold. The car broke traction on dry pavement.

Anyways will these headers fit an s8, as I would like to pick up that project next as I miss my s6…have a cayenne gts but downer feel quite the same and I miss my v10!

#126

I’m not sure if the S6 headers would fit the S8. You would have to supply the S8, and have the shop build a set for that car.

Why dont you get another v10 S6? While a lot of this stuff could be ported to the S8 if you left your car with the shop for a few months, the S6 stuff is available NOW! And there is more coming in the next few months… stay tuned :slight_smile:

#127

I am fine supplying an S8, in the process of finding one :slight_smile: what are you asking for this set so I can see attached the realms of cost would be for the s8 header build…

Also curious on the reasoning you went with a 3.0 vs. A 2.75. I thought 2.75 dual was more than efficient for the 5.2 especially ti perserve the tq. Heck I even felt the csr was a little less tqy (not by much but a 100-200 rpm) after my exhaust install. Now if you are planning on force induction of some sort the 3 makes sense otherwise you don’t think it’s overkill. I could be wrong here by I believe folks using too large diameter piping 3ish were losing some power especially down low on my e60 m5.

Interested to hear your thoughts as I’m sure there was some science behind it. I’ll have no problem doing 3.0 if the overall power is there especially the tq. Just did 2.75 piping on my cayenne gts and that is 4.8 liter so while not a v10 it’s somewhat similar in size :slight_smile: