Time for Action Against Assad

So who’s shocked that Russia stepped in and is now acquiring all of Saddams old chemical stockpile?

$20 says the Obama administration, specifically Flip-Flop Kerry, will turn this into a positive PR prop. I don’t know what’s worse, a shady Russian administration with more WMDs and Iranian friends or a small country with WMDs, ruled by a Russian puppet president?

Regardless, thank you Obama for giving our enemy the upper hand.; should’ve left well-enough alone, Fucktard!

Here ya go Beem

In the article “Active Thermitic Material Discovered in Dust from the 9/11 World Trade Center Catastrophe”, which appeared in the Open Chemical Physics Journal, authors Niels Harrit of the University of Copenhagen’s Department of Chemistry, Jeffrey Farrer of Brigham Young University’s Department of Physics and Astronomy, Steven E. Jones, and others state that thermite and nano-thermite composites in the dust and debris were found following the collapse of the three buildings, which they conclude to be proof that explosives brought down the buildings.

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Russia already has enough Nukes to blow up all of the US. What’s new?

Nothing except we got power played.

America now looks like a bitch, gun in one hand and a limp dick in the other because Russia stepped in, waved its hands and made shit magically better! The economic-political relationship between Russia/Syria just got stronger thanks to Obama’s Red Line bullshit.

What next Mr. Obama, you going to tell the Chinese to intervene with the North Koreans and lift the 50yr deadlock in exchange for a nuclear free NK?

Hmmm…last I checked, Assad willing to give up his chemical weapons without requiring a fight was a good thing. The US shows just threatening a country is enough to get it to move its ass and no American had to die. Obviously, it’s not guaranteed he’ll give up his chemical weapons (or all of them if he gives some) but we’re talking politics and perception here, not actual disarmament.

Ultimately though, the media will spin it whichever way they’ll want based on their own political agendas. Fox will say Obama is making the US look weak (or something similar, probably worse), MSNBC will say Obama is being strategic and getting shit done, CNN will show random pictures and videos of whatever strikes horror to get more viewers, and nothing will have changed.

And herein lies the rub. The vast majority of people are happy to believe whatever they’re told. This really is a media and business war. It’s all a great money maker for big business.

Now imagine if all that money was spent on healthcare…

As a sidenote, I’ll chime in with a British viewpoint here. The NHS (National Health Service) is pretty broke at the moment. So I’m pleased that the House of Commons stood up and said no to military action in Syria. The country is flat broke at the moment and certainly doesn’t need another conflict to commit to!


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Because the US threatened to attack therefore it willed Assad to give up his weapons and hand them over to their Russian ally?

Obama made a BOLD claim and then put his foot in his mouth.
Obama then attempted to rally support for this BOLD claim and put his foot FURTHER down his throat
Obama then had that spineless thing of a Secretary of State “lay out” what happened and why the US should intervene.
Obama backed himself into a corner and was hoping for Russia to step in and “help out”.

Had Russia not “step in”, what would happen, 1000s of Syrians would die because Assad wouldn’t give up his weapons thus angering that entire region and further fueling Anti-American rhetoric?

Assad isn’t willing to do shit, he’s merely a pawn in the global chess game. Russia-US diplomacy has never been that great but when Bush, Clinton and Bush Jr were at the helm, Russia was kept in check…usher in Obama and this shit happens?

…Axel, not angry at you; just angry at the outcome of something that should’ve been left alone. :slight_smile:

No worries. I completely disagree with everything you’ve written but that’s what being human is all about. Having one’s own opinions :slight_smile:

+1

Nah Obama called an audible. This allows him to save some face. Basically a vote in Congress was looking like it would be very against him and therefore NOTHING would have been done. Now it looks like something will be done that the US was behind.

None of it changes anything other than the us saves a few billion dollars.

Umm… Did you forget where Syria got all of their weapons in the first place? Adding these weapons to Russia’s pile is like taking holy water to the Vatican.

Yup, Russia just basically got to save their own investment and look like they are trying to keep world peace at the same time.

But we all know Russia is the main player siding with all these extreme nations and blocking everyone else. So they’re far from looking good.

In other words one day of debt :wink:

I think we’re saying the same thing but from different view points. I don’t see this as an Obama audible, more of a pass dump after being chased out of the pocket by an effective pass rush.

In the end, Russia looks good for stepping in to “save the day” and the US continues its “bully” image.

there’s a billboard at a main intersection in Toronto paid for by 9/11 conspiracy theorists

Here’s one of them…

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PRISM will take care of them :slight_smile:

Just like our healthcare system. corrupt as fuck

With money and power comes corruption. It’s human nature

Our healthcare system is so corrupt.

  1. Hospitals over billing patients 6x the cost of care. Cash paying patients end up paying this retarded bill, insurances usually pay 2-3x the cost of care. Not only that, hospitals maximizing the length of stay insurances will pay. Patient may be ok to go home after the first night, however insurance will pay out for another 4 days due to their type of reported condition/disease. Hospitals then keep then to get paid. They also get rid of patients asap if they are not covered, sending them to SNIFFs, LTCFs, nursing homes…etc. Its fucked.

  2. Insurances over charging patient premiums, refusing to cover services provided…

  3. Drs over charging and over utilizing the medical care system. Patient comes in for a simple uncomplicated cystits and the Dr works them up for pyelonephritis, pancreatitis, SIRS, PID, PCOS, spontaneous bacterial peritonitis…etc

And that’s our healthcare system through people who have sworn to improve other peoples well-being. Then there is the government which is filled with people that have lied to get there and fuck people every chance they get.

So tell me as corrupt as the healthcare system is do you really think the government is not as bad? Hell no. At the federal level there is so much fucking money and power. They dont give a fuck about the public or killing a few in 911 to get more money and more power.