What's the story with the EvilEvo car? 600 whp? 700 whp? 1/4 mile times?

B5 S4/ RS4
#21

I can help you, but I have some questions for you

  1. there are 10 years of K04 cars, and way more of them out there. That’s why there are more results. Simple numbers game. However there are not 100% bad results. Keep that in mind.

  2. ‘you guy never stop bashing Tials and how they ‘suck’’. Was this directed at me? I have not bashed Tials and how they suck. They blow anyway…they’re turbos. :smiley: . What I have said is that I am suspicious of the disconnect between Tials dyno results and their weak track results. 475 whp cars do not run 11.9-12.1. 700 whp cars do not trap 128 mph. The numbers are just…off. So I’ve asked a few questions.

THe problem is in trying to figure out why the cars are not performing, I have asked about a few things

a) the turbos themselves - this discussion has been pretty good. Consensus is that you need race gas or meth and lots of boost to get them into ass-kicking range (605s especially). Unfortunately that’s not going to show up at the dragstrip and it’s definitely not going to show up in normal every day driving. I mean who wants to push 100 octane fuel and monster boost at big RPMs in big gears…that’s not what we do with our cars for the most part. So that doesn’t look very good.+

b) the shop that makes the majority of the big whp builds…AMD. The main dude is a bit of a dick on forums, but that really doesn’t matter. Lots of people think jason from JHM is a dick, but their stuff is great, so people look past it. I hear lots of praise for jason@amd, so not sure you can blame him for the cars not performing. I don’t agree with lots of what he says, but again, does that mean the turbos aren’t any good? Not likely.

c) most important - the tuning. The EPL tuning seems to constantly get a free pass on the matter. Not sure why…and in the thread I started about this, everyone whined and said ‘stop hating AMD and TIals’. Nothing to fucking do with Tials. I was also not asking about AMD. The thread title was ‘where are all the fast EPL tuned cars?’ Then everyone said ‘but look at my 60-130 and fats!’. And I said 'I don’t give a fuck about 60-130 and fats…I just want to know why there are almost ZERO fast EPL cars on the dragstrip list. Seriously…there’s one guy, NYCVR6, and his EPL tuned K04 car had the tune tweaked a bunch when he ran 11.6 @ 126. BUt guys would rather whine and call people haters than talk about the tuning and figure out what’s holding the cars back at the strip.

So…you tell me. Why is the EPL tuned EVILEVO car running 13s @ 123 while making 700 whp? He’s running a set of proven turbos, GTs, and he’s still running terrible times. You can also tell me that of the dozen or so Tial 605/770 cars that have hit the dragstrip, why are they struggling to get even into the 11s? Does that sound right to you? Is it what I mentioned above…that they’re a bigtime top end turbo, arent so awesome downlow, especially from a dig? Or what?

Rather than being butthurt all the time, let’s either see some good 1/4 mile times and all shut up…or lets figure out the weakness that is holding these cars back. BUt lets not get butthurt and bitch everytime someone asks a hard question.

#22

Back at ya. Not sure if you were directing that whole post to me, but don’t group me in to the everyone category.

Until like 6 months ago I knew what fats were or that or anything about that shit. Notice how I have never posted my fats or 60-120(?)? Why you ask? Because I have never calculated them. I probably won’t ever figure out what they are and if I did wouldn’t feel the need to post it.

On march 18 there is an open drag day. If its not raining here in WA I’ll take mine out. Don’t expect me to show any amazing #'s as I’ve been to the track 2 times in my life… My own personal goal is to just do better than I did in my K03 car last year. I have a lot to learn still about 1/4ing my car.

#23

Dude if you’re making 175 more whp, realistically beating your K03 car isn’t exactly a very good goal. Maybe you’re just sandbagging and that’s cool. Maybe you subscribe to the ‘underpromise, overdeliver’ school of thought and again that’s cool too.

But the 1/4 mile is a simple acceleration from a stop to about the top of 4th/bottom of 5th gear. It’s not rocket surgery or brain science. The first half is what you do from a stop light when you’re beside an M5. The second half is what you do on an on-ramp every day of your life when nobody is in front of you. Why people think they need to go 10 times and make 100 passes before they know how to accelerate their car from a stop effectively is very puzzling.

You’ll do fine, and if your car really is making 492 whp, you’ll kick serious ass. On 92 octane + meth (and the timing that comes with it) with that torque and hp curve you posted, you should be comfortably in the mid 11 second to low 11 second range at about 125-130 mph. I have no doubt about that (if the dyno is legit and the dynamics of the tune aren’t shit…not the absolute power the car makes, but the tune’s ability to manage the entire dynamic of throttle from the launch to in and out of gears etc). If you just beat your K03 time, trust me…you’re going to be fucking pissed. Don’t blame yourself if that happens though. Ask hard questions of the people you paid thousands of your dollars to!

#24

Omg feature films! So cool bro!

And lol at rocket surgery and brain science.

#25

There he is everyone, Nick the almighty ::slight_smile:

#26

Good evening.

#27

weren’t you the wanna be hoodrat who said nawmsayin and other ebonic beauties every five minutes in gcc…but who then turned out to be a white kid from the suburbs? And was edating audichick?

haven’t seen you around.

#28

bortz/evilemo has only made 600whp never will make 700whp with his jank set-up

#29

LOL

#30

why is there so much dislike towards one another? I know I haven’t been around long enough in the stage 3 B5 crowd, but really???

#31

dunno. I’ve never heard of 8urv8. So far he seems to hate lots of stuff lol.

Hey, so has anyone given any thought to the actual OP of this thread?

#32

Are you seriously trying to one up me right now, you little Internet warrior?You have a lot to say about me yet you don’t know one true thing about me other than I did in fact date Maryann (which was random as hell). And what the fuck does my race have anything to with what I wrote to you? Oh that’s right, someone who is as intelligent as you are would say some shit like that. Why? Because you couldn’t think of anything else to write? You would think of all this time behind a keyboard, one would have something more real to type (since you know me so well).

Lighten the fuck up, your ass is so tight I’m debating whether I should move on to the next asshole. I was fucking around with you because you came off as little prissy bitch that you knew some actors.

I can’t stand people who praise people with a celebrity background. Wow, you can pretend you’re someone else in front of a camera! Omgwannafuck?[hail]!!!

#33

There he is everyone. nick.

The guy that knows EVERYTHING about EVERYTHING

#34

your race is funny because of the street lingo you used to use. You got slammed for it in gcc a couple of times. There was a funny photo of you with your hat cocked to the side snarling gangsta like at the camera…from your middle class parents house lol.

as for the actor thing, I was in a couple of movies as an extra, and I was messing with tweets. Catch up. He’s an actor.

your joke about celebrities sounded better when ricky said it on letterman. I agree though…celebrity worship is sickening.

anyway goos to see you here and ‘contributing’. All in good fun.

#35

My race is funny because I used street lingo? What?? I wanna say I made that up because I was the first font friends to use it. Again, what the fuck does that have to do with anything? Just drop it. Quit defending yourself. You’re making yourself look immature. As for the picture, you and I both know it was for the babe thread. Whose apartment? Again, shut up you don’t know what you’re talking about.

#36

Hahah. I like where this is going…

#37

You need to wash your mouth out with soap young man, where are your manners? We classy and civilized up in here.

#38

back to the topic at hand, anyone ever run this guy? I have a few cars in mind that would be a good matchup, I would even like to run him in my gt25 setup.

#39

Like that nogaro 770 car that smashed that supra

#40

whaaaaat!