Wheel Offset Technical Help

Current setup I am running

17"x 7.5? or 7" stock sport wheels with et45 with whatever the stock reccomended tire size is.

I am wanting to change to either the RS4 9 spoke wheel which is 18 x 8.5 et20
OR I want the USP 9 spoke wheel which is 18 x 8 et43

I have been reading as much as I can trying to understand wheel offset. I really want the RS4 wheel because that allows me to keep stock appearance while going wider. BUT with a offset of 20 I am worried how that will affect things.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwiqAr2bI-I
Here is a link for the basics of wheel offset for anyone else who wants to learn this stuff with me.

What I’m trying to understand is, I am at what I think is a 7" or 7.5" stock rim width? with a offset of 45, now if I go to a wider rim of 8.5" my offset would obviously need to change, but down to 20? is there some sort of conversion calculator ? Also what other effects does this have on the suspension? steering? quattro system?

Here is the wheel offset calculator that I found, but its not really helping me to understand what I want to know.
http://www.1010tires.com/wheeloffsetcalculator.asp

Any help would be greatly appreciated

offset refers to the mounting surface of the wheel and how much material there is. Our cars range from positive offset to high positive offset wheels. In other words, usually ET20 to ET50. ET50 is more A3/A6. The smaller the number, the more aggressively ‘flushed out’ the wheel will be.

The number is a measurement in millimetres. There are 25.4 millimetres in an inch for perspective.

So a wheel that is ET 20 vs. a wheel that is ET50 will mean a 30mm difference in how aggressive or ‘flushed out’ the wheel will look. 30 mm is a little over an inch…and that’s a ton when it comes to wheel offset.

You can’t forget that wheel width also has to be accounted for. An 8.0 wheel vs. an 8.5 wheel will look different, so you have to account for the change in wheel width in your search. 0.5" = 12.5 mm. Now, that 12.5mm is not entirely on the outside (i.e. it doesn’t flush out the wheel entirely). Rather it’s split on the inside and outside of the wheel. So an increase of 0.5" in width is the equivalent of one half of 12.5 mm of offset, therefore about 6mm.


So, an example. Let's look at the B6/7 S4. Stock, 18x8.0 wheels ET45. These look a bit tucked. 18x8.5 ET 35 looks pretty awesome. What's the difference? Let's do the math

width change - 0.5" a.k.a 12.5 mm, but remember that’s 6.25mm of outside width, or more flushness
offset change - 10mm
total change - 16.25mm more flush…that’s about 9/16"

That’s a big change, but the stockers are pretty tucky, and the 16mm change is just about perfect. Much more and it could potentially start to poke.


Now let’s look at the guys who rock B7 RS4 wheels on their B6/7 A4/S4

stock S4 18x8.0 ET45
stock RS4 19x9.0 ET29

width difference 1.0" a.k.a. 25.4 mm, which is 12.7mm of outside width, or more flushness
offset difference 16mm
total difference = about 29 mm

You just need to look at a B6/7 S4 to know that 29mm of added flushness is going to result in a stupid looking poke setup that can only be cured by running ridiculous stretched tires and ricer style, performance killing camber.

But I digress…:smiley:


So looking at your B6 A4 example vs. B5 RS4 wheels, it’s going to be dramatic too.

17x7.5 A4 sport wheels ET45 (is that right? I’m guessing because you wrote it)
18x8.5 B5 RS4 wheels ET20

width difference = 1", or 25.4mm, which is 12.7mm of outside width, or extra flushed-out-ness
offset difference = 25mm (big)
total difference = 38mm

This is massive. This is 1.5" basically, so unless your wheels are CRAZY tucked, this might look silly. So best be careful.


p.s. spacers are a topic that come up a lot. People buy 5 or 10mm spacers to flush out a wheel setup a bit. This is exactly the same as an offset difference. You’re just adding ‘material’ that will result in the wheel mounting up flushed out a bit more. As you can see a 10mm spacer is a big change. That should give you an idea how crazy a 29 or 38mm difference between two wheels would be in our examples…they’re the equivalent of running MASSIVE thick spacers.

I have a set of USP wheels for sale (shameless plug) and I ran them with a 5mm spacer in the rear. It definitely could use more, but that’s because I already had them from previous wheel setups.

On my stock 17" sport wheels, I run a 20mm spacer in the rear and is damn near perfectly flush with the fender.

Damn saki. What a write up. My head hurts :wink:

Great writeup! I posted a question about this on AZ with no response, this clears it all up for me.

Thanks Saki! That was extremly informative and exactly what I needed to know! I was actually going to say the same thing as Meistah, cuz its pretty cool you can post for help over here but had I posted the same thing on AZ I garuntee the response would of not been the same.