World's Fastest B7 RS4?

B6/7 S4/RS4
#21

You’re probably right. Maybe even something like a short shifter adds 0 ET. I forget who Im talking to someone’s.

#22

I’m having a hard time finding the list of supporting mods for the AMD stage 1 car that ran 11.3. I really wish there was a thread with everything listed in one nice single post.

#23

Exactly. Then there could be a real comparison instead of fanboys just jizzing over the latest news feeds.

#24

This is what we have Saki for. Just give him a little time, and I’m sure he’ll round up all the pertinent information about both kits into one clean summarized post!

#25

Sorry time doesnt count, there was no baby seat…jk

Well done JHM congrats

#26

Lol, I want to see Jay’s pants on the wall ;D

#27

Your still missing it…you are the only one dumb enough to think there is a a difference here worth talking about…

Ill post it again because I know your slow…

The jhm kit has a 8000rev limmit…avia 8500 = avia aadvantage…not safe imho
Both kits had 2.75 cstless dowm pipes = neutral
Both kits had inter cooled supercharger kits jhm 8lbs avia 15lbs = jhm win but avua advantage
Both kits had catback system jhm 2.75 avia 2.5 but…it didnt sound hooked up = neutral lets say it was hooked up…according to amd the rs4 didnt need a 2.75 catback…
Both cars had light weight rims =neutral
Both cars had aftermarket clutch flywheel = neutral
Jhm had aftermarket jhm lw rotors…the avia car had aftermarket rotors…not knowing the weight differences lets give the adge to jhm = jhm
Avia car had the bacm seats out.= advantage avia

Your talking aboit a shifter like thst is tilting the ballence here…jhm has come full force with every part thats on thr car… we can see all the power making parts…lets take this one step further

Jhms car is built by jhm with jhm parts and it was faster
Amd car built by amd with a scatter of parts and it wasn’t faster…

Your talking a bettsr da for the avia kit run… 8500rpm and no back seats… this is heavily tilted in the avia cars favor. .

DaytonaRS4. … im coming at you like this because your just bickering saying there needs to be more real head to head…your not even putting out a good argument to ssy this isnt a great head to head…your just wining…we are are wanting to know how all the cars stack up… this is a measurement of a performance product in a performance test and we have listed the supporting performance mods…list what you think is missing

#28

Nice job guys, great times. That thing moves.

#29

Chris you forgot upgraded fueling for the AMD car…which the JHM kit does not need.

#30

How don’t you have a horse? Didn’t you just jump on the JHM fullback group buy? Be truthful…how is the exhaust quality, probably great!

…and one thing your missing above all else is that the JHM kit just topped AMD’s time with half the boost and a stock rev limit

I’m not sure why you had to come here and throw the stupid fanboy shit around…JHM puts out the better product, it’s as simple as that.

#31

Enough said/seen… I’m all in on this kit. The decision is made. AMAZING JHM! Just let me know when…

#32

And yea… in the end I waited and didn’t give in to compulsivity, thanks everyone that told me to give it a second thought. I’m excited about this!

#33

Your welcome =]

The best part is it still may get better because the kit isn’t even released yet! This is just a development update!

#34

TVSr1900 supercharger
upgraded fuel pumps
upgraded intercooling (vs. their basic $11,000 kit which went 11.8 @ 118)
upgraded coolant pump
LW wheels
Catless 3" downpipes
2.75" catback
no back seat
14 PSI I believe. They claimed a few months ago that it would be 15 PSI+ as if that’s a good thing lol.

IMPORTANT - AMD ran on a night when the Density Altitude was -700 to -850 feet at Pacific Raceways according to dragtimes.

JHM ran at +100 feet of Density Altitude when they went 126 and +200 feet when they went 11.34

A 1000 foot swing in Density Altitude is significant.

So to summarize the differences for BWT

JHM 8 PSI vs. Aviva 14 PSI - this is a huge difference of course

JHM 91 tune vs. Aviva 92 tune (negligible, buit a difference…and JHM had 93 in the tank anyway…however on the
JHM 93 tune this will get REALLY interesting. Haven’t bothered with race gas because it’s just not necessary)

JHM STOCK FUELLING vs. Aviva who used 2 upgraded fuel pumps - this is a huge difference, and i can just picture the guys at Aviva and at TTS saying ‘how the fuck did they do that???’ Classic JHM

JHM full interior vs. Aviva removed rear seat/seatbench - negligible but let’s mention everything

JHM LW front rotors vs. Aviva BBK rotors - I reckon the Aviva car had reasonably heavy rotors because someone said they’re 380 mm. That would likely mean the weigh what stock RS4 rotors weigh…so this is an advantage of about 10 lbs to JHM (rotating…important)

JHM LW rear rotors vs. Aviva ??? stock??? - another few pounds of rotating mass removed. Minor difference.

JHM looks to have Michelin PSS tires on this car vs. Aviva who mentioned they had Dunlop Direzza. Not sure on sizing or weights, but looks like a minor advantage to JHM.

JHM 100 to 200 feet of Density Altitude vs. Aviva who were -700 to -900 feet. This is a massive difference.

All in all the differences in weight aren’t that big. Sure the Aviva guys had the seat out but the JHM car shaved some rotating weight so that’s overall in JHM’s favour. However it’s minor. But when you factor in what JHM is accomplishing with WAY less boost, on stock fuelling, and with a car tuned for 91 (but running 93) it’s pretty staggering.

When you consider the JHM stage 2 intercooled kit costs $11,000…which is the same as the Aviva base kit…that’s incredible.

When you consider that JHM stage 1 non-cooled kit is $7950, and went mid-high 11s @ 117-118 MPH, that’s also incredible. $3,000 less than the competition.

#35

haha I’m still going to give you shit. WAIT MAN!

Let’s see how this all shakes out a little longer.

p.s. this 11.34 @ 122/11.36 @ 126…awesome. However I reckon that this is just a taste to show people who were eating up AMD’s bullshit marketing campaign that they should hold the horses.

Does anyone here really believe JHM beat their time by 2 hundredths of a second and just left it at that? If you do, you don’t know JHM. They’ll crush that fucking time by the time they’re done. As I said this is just a ‘don’t waste your money’ post. No offense to JHM. That’s just what it looks like to me.

#36

Once again JHMFTMFW!!! Way to represent again ;D

#37

Hey, you sound like you may know something… 8)

#38

This and

  1. What tires?
  2. And Width? they look 255, however cant really run much wider on those 19x9 ultraleggra’s.

I think in a better DA with wider grip-pier tires 11.1-11.2 is there to be had cutting a 1.6-1.7 60ft

#39

I think the AMD car runs some wide-ass lightweight wheels. like 10 inches…so I will comfortably say they are likely 275.30.19

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[quote=jason:addict]They 9.5" and weight 21.5 lbs with Dunlop Direzza’s
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That would help gearing a little if they are 275.30.19 , for a torque multiplying effect vs 255.35.19 stock. Those dunlops are heavy though. Not sure which exact ones they have or which size. Can be anywhere from 26 to 30 lbs.

JHM`s Blue car had 275.30.19 tires on it I believe however this car I am not sure. Hopefully someone from JHM chimes in.

#40

and to clarify, let`s look at costs

JHM base kit - $7950 all in, installed at JHM
Aviva base kit - $11,000 all in, and I`m not sure about install
Difference = $3,000

JHM bigger kit = $10,950 all in, installed at JHM
Aviva bigger kit = $14,500 all in, not sure on install (hopefully they correct me if that`s wrong)
Difference = $3500

To go high 11s in the teens,

JHM $7950
Aviva $11,000
APR $13,500

To go low 11s in the 120s

JHM $11,000
Aviva $14,500
TTS $15,000