I’m not stupid and frankly neither is the guy who builds the cages and wins SCCA races. Whatever steel tubing he’s using in the way he’s constructing it, it’s not possible. Perhaps this isn’t galvanized steel?
raw steel or any steel type can be powder coated since it will carry a negative charge. Powder coating isn’t some magic. It sounds like he doesn’t want it powder coated, not that it can’t be powder coated. Roll cages are usually made with .120 wall DOM. which is spec’d by SCCA for 3000Lbs and over cars. This is very power coat-able.
even if they were building the cage out of chromoly steel the PC temp is way below the heat threshold that weakens it. So my point is he doesn’t want to do it.
I think your point was that westwest is stupid, even though you masked it as a rhetorical question. I think he is pretty stupid about some things, that’s for sure.
true you caught me
My guess is he has to paint this when it’s in the car. I don’t know if light industrial anodizing places have giant 5’ deep vats that they can dip something like a cage into.
oh boy why are you talking about anodizing now? it can be PC’d outside of the car. Rule books stipulate that the main hoop has to be one piece of tubing for all racing classes. The cage can not be directly welded to the floor, the tube is welded to a plate and the plate can be welded to the floor. or better still four grade 8 bolts through the floor to a matching plate to put into double scheer. it can’t be painted inside the car with any sort of interior anyway you just have no room to get adequate coverage from the paint.
Lol
In for the lulz. Don’t mind me (can’t say I know anything about cages - just here for the humor)
Just coordinating one shop putting in the seat and another shop doing the cage has been a project management hassle. The passenger seat sensor is a problem. The seat height is a problem. Fabricating brackets is a problem. Not my problem, but my cost and a delay in finishing these projects in a timely manner.
I am actually curious on the seat sensor.
So they don’t have a solution for that? I know for older cars it would just be a resistor of some sort. Not sure how much the B8/B8.5 would make a fit over it.
- Karma for treading in new territory
The preferred method is to take a donor seat like from a junk yard, cut it up, and put the pad under the floor mat (or in the new seat). Supposedly there is a Nissan part number that fits the Audi for about $100 + $10 shipping, but I sort of don’t believe it.
Boom.
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The OEM seat is 68 pounds.
Which method did you end up going with? Putting it on the seat? Not sure how putting it under the floor mat would clear tech inspection.
Seat looks cool
The passenger seat is still in there. We’ll have to locate a donor A4 seat to get that sensor. I’m thinking I should do a Recaro Profi XL for the passenger because the driver’s seat is tight, even for me. There’s little chance anyone else would put up with it.
For the driver’s side, it’s just a 2.2 ohm resistor to fool the seat airbag sensor. There’s no airbag lights or codes in VAGina COMmunicator. About $3500 installed with tax and labor. The 3 point belt slipped through on the left side, and the receptacle on the right also slipped through the seat with no modification. There’s about an extra 2" of room between the seat and the transmission tunnel.
It’s off to TC Design at 6 AM tomorrow for a black Krylon cage.
Heck yeah! Can’t wait to see this project completed. Do they facbricate the cage inside the car and then pull it back out for painting?
likely yes, because it will have come out to have the top parts finish welded since you can’t get good weld penetration with it in the car, if I had to guess.
The cage will be done July 1. These guys go racing every weekend. I’m probably going to get the back seat carpeted and the trunk recarpeted, right into the spare tire well. I asked the welder to cut off the child seat latch loops so I have a smoother surface to run carpet and matting over.
Nice, thanks for your thoughts.