-10 karma can’t be good… Maybe I should leave before i get grounded… prime time you do have a three year head start and have run some great times congrats
See bud this is where you lose all credibility… You quoted a trap, so you’re on the hook for the slip that’s kind of how it works or you’re full of shit, don’t worry we know which one it is…
Epl is not a new company in the audi world, but your new to audi so you probably didn’t know that… Lol
Also, I think I’ll take Jeff’s advice to saki as you are just being an ass and not worth discussing things… Good luck with that cam timing custom tune… Zoom zoom…
Btw, Ron, this would be awesome. I know you mentioned this before. We’ll be sure to get a good showing if you come out to one of the Chicagoland tracks.
The biggest irony of all of this is the fact that EPL is the only big company that would partner with AMS, and probably desperately wanted to partner with AMD. Why you ask?
We all know they can’t tune for shit based of past history. If they could, why the fuck would you be splitting your revenue on tunes and very simple production parts (pulley etc). You think APR or GAIC or JHM or anyone else would say, sure, well take 30% less profit so we can sell under a different name since ours doesn’t have a good reputation, fuck no haha.
EPL probably jumped at the chance! Them already having a B8 tune is shocking, bc you have multiple forums that have never heard of such a thing. You’d think people would know that by now lol.
So at the end of the day AMS doesn’t have to do any work but will still rake in the cash, and if it sucks, it falls back on EPL since the parts are nothin special.
Saxon, sorry, but you’ve just been beat. E85 and meth is not ground for “custom tuning”. It’s a fuel source. And all the parts even considered on the B8 are by definition “cookie cutter” parts. The headers don’t work, regardless of tuning or fuel, with stock blower at least.
I data log my car, send the logs to GIAC, they review- make adjusters and re-flash me. Local GIAC dealer is ~5 miles from me and I get flashed and I’m on my way…
APR has done similar for Tsivas and Ron…
So yeah I guess you can say all our cars are custom tuned then…
I’m going to TMP in the Spring to see how my car does on 93 and hopefully get the 104 tune tested as well. Hopefully we can set something up with the GTA guys. Is Pete the only 6mt guy to run 11s on 93 so far?
I try not to post out of emotion. I have been doing this for over a decade personally and I have dealt with my fair share of forum people with very passionate and opinionated views.
Your “facts” statement though needs some work
Here are some Facts:
Our showroom stock B8 S4 went 12.45@110mph at about 500ft DA with a 1.82 60ft. So far on that list the ONLY car that I can see that went quicker than that on a tune only did so by a .04 seconds and in -1300 DA. I assume it is a tune only as he has left the field blanks. This is on an off the shelf S4 tune by EPL after an impromptu run to the track. This was our one and only time taking the car to the track. I’m sure with better conditions that number can be improved on.
We know how to make parts, just ask our customers over the past 14 years. Ask The countless customer’s running around in ALPHA powered GT-R’s. We break records to PROVE our parts. We have used that formula since we started this company. We have or still do hold every major record in the platforms we have worked with. The GT-R is really the best example as we are still very active in that platform. The ONLY record we don’t hold in fact was just taken from us and that was the standing mile speed. We might go after this one day but honestly its the one record we never really cared much about as our customers that compete in these events only care about ET…and making our customers happy is job #1.
We do still hold the following records
Best GT-R 1/4 ET: 7.98 seconds
Best GT-R 1/4 MPH: 186.6 Mph
Best 60-130 (for any car recorded) 2.67 seconds
Best 100-150 (for any car recorded) 2.42 seconds
Best 30-130 (for any car recorded) 3.63 seconds
Best 0-186 (for any car recorded) 7.98 seconds
Worlds fastest standing half mile for a GT-R: 214mph
Worlds quickest standing mile for a GT-R: 22.0 seconds
Worlds first 9 second GT-R
Worlds first 8 second GT-R
Worlds first 7 second GT-R
We have built more GT-R’s in the 8’s than the three next competitors combined.
“But this isn’t a GT-R” You are right but I put those there not to brag but to show you that in order to achieve that you have to know what you are doing. We entered the Mercedes 5.5biturbo market and within weeks broke the standing 1/2 mile MPH for that car. In the EVO World we were on top before we decided to pull back from that market. Again this isn’t dumb luck. We did our research just like we have with every platform. The Audi will be no different.
I know that you have a great deal of passion for the Audi but as we have learned working with the GT-R, Porsche, BMW, R8, Mercedes etc…they are all cars. Do they each carry their own unique challenges? Absolutely…but they are still all cars. We will work our way through this one just like we have with every other one.
“evo style testing” We pride ourselves on testing these cars at full weight. We went 8.20 in our GT-R with a full interior before tossing a slick on the car to crack off a 7. If you mean back to back testing with actual empirical data to show if something works…yeah you can expect that from us.
You are clearly happy with APR. Stick with them, they are a great company. We plan on coexisting peacefully with them and if they want to develop tunes for our parts we welcome that opportunity. If EPL proves they can’t get the job done then we will address that. However Tony has shown no signs of that happening and we believe in what he can do. Tony is a smart guy and With Martin and Chris here at AMS (who do our in house tuning) I bet those three can lock down some awesome options for Audi owners.
in closing i have learned It’s ok to waive your flag, just don’t shove it down someones throat. It’s capitalism, if you don’t like it, don’t buy it.
DSG or 6-speed… Please post the slip and vid if you have one, which given your guys record I assume you do… That time would be about .35 quicker than the fastest stock DSG and about .25 faster than the stock 6-speed… Won’t call BS but I would like to see some proof… Props on the rest of your post and I look forward to seeing what you guys do… For the record my 10 DSG car went 12.85 @ 109 in 1700 DA with 770 miles on the car…