Interesting. Haven’t seen any talk about the JHM shifter in B8 land, so I wasn’t sure they were selling them still. They had some kind of group buy a while back…must have been 2010.
if u search back there was tons of talk. most if not all were getting them until EC put theres out
I reckon if JHM had focused on the B8, they’d have a bigger market share on the shifters. People just decided EuroCode was a better bet early on (those who were undecided lets say) because EC had headers, the chassis brace etc. Makes sense.
Having spoken with JHM, it feels like they’ll never get anything going for the B8. They’re talking about lots of other stuff. Nothing B8 related though. Bit of a shame, but APR is taking good care of you guys it seems.
a lot of people complained about the reverse hook on the JHM, but my biggest an only issue with that shifter was the slop it would accumulate over time. a wobbly shifter drives me nuts. the jhm no matter what would always back the linkage nut just enough for it to stay on snug but not snug enough to eliminate the play when in gear for example. when everything was good and tight the shifter felt great. but after time shifter would get loose and wobbly thus making shift placement “vague”
helix hit the nail on the head, the EC shifter really does almost feel like its gated. ive had no play since day 1 it feels sharp and precise every shift. that plus it has a shorter throw at its max settings than JHM
JHM’s shifter was out long before Eurocode even began developing one. They literally had no competition for almost 2 years for a full shifter replacement. I had a JHM installed in my car within 2 weeks of taking delivery back in January 2011, and it was a big improvement over stock. The problem for JHM was that Eurocode’s unit came out and it was obvious just looking at the design that it was superior, and it was backed by Eurocode’s reputation from developing the AK and USS, both of which are outstanding products. Not only that, but the difference in price is negligible. I jumped on the initial group buy and had my shifter installed back in August. The mechanic that installed it commented on what a great piece of engineering the Eurocode shifter was when compared to the JHM. Again, not trying to knock JHM, just trying to convey that the Eurocode unit really is that much better, to their credit. The improvement in feel going from JHM to Eurocode’s shifter was greater than going from stock to JHM. There really is no reason to buy JHM’s shifter over Eurocode’s if you’re buying new.
As far as JHM and the B8, that really is too bad. I do think they are a very good company that puts out quality products.
I was at JHM’s bbq on Saturday. They have the clutch that they designed for the S5 and with a few minor tweaks, they can put it in the B8 S4. They’re also working on their own design for the flywheel. I don’t know if you would call that a stage II clutch solution or just a version two. They also hinted at some other things in the works, but I can’t remember if the word DSG was said, or if it had to do with something else.
They made some awesome steak and chicken and had beer on tap.
-Skid
You already said all of that. My point was that JHM didn’t really bother with your platform’s market, thus you didn’t see guys supporting JHM.
For example, are JHM LW rotors better than anyone else’s LW rotors? I wouldn’t think they are dramatically different to the various items out there, however in the B6/7 world, you buy the JHM ones becuase you are also buying their tune/exhaust/intakespacers/crank pulley/intake manifold etc. Since EC has that hold with multiple products in B8 guys’ hands, they have an easier route to getting the shifter business.
As for JHM having no competition, that’s not accurate. The JHM shifter came out right when the strat shifter came out. I know this because I was a moderator on euroaddiction and I had to slam the moron from strat for polluting JHM threads with his fear mongering and bullshit (saying you’ll have to scratch up your interior to install the jhm shifter lol). He did it in like 10 threads.
Good to see EC nailed the shifter. did you guys give your feedback to JHM? They’d hate to hear that they have a second rate product. they’re kind of crazy about being the best at stuff like that.
what shifter did you have when you went to the strip?
i THINK JHM. i got the shifter june-july sometime but the strip was feb-march… i think lol
No offense Saki, but nobody who has a clue would seriously see the Strat short shifter as a true competitor to the JHM. It’s a budget-minded alternative with an easy install and that is all it has ever been. It shortens the throw but all that factory slop is still there. Even John has acknowledged that the other products (both EC and JHM) are superior albeit more expensive and labor intensive to install.
I know what you’re saying, but it was a short shifter in the market. And don’t make me dig up all the old threads where eveyrone compared them and people considered them competitors.
If you can find me John at strat acknowledging that the JHM shifter is superior to the Strat, I will buy you a case of Coke.
I do recall those threads of John comparing the Strat and the JHM, but IMO that was John the Strat employee not John the Roc-Euro owner. Small distinction, but he does seem to have mellowed in that regard and really isn’t actively selling the Strat shifter or making more as opposed to just selling off the inventory he bought. Note the post below. Not directly comparing to the JHM as the question was about the EC offering, but he readily acknowledges that it was designed for a different market segment than the Eurocode (and therefore the JHM given their similarities compared to the Strat) offering. I would bet you that case of coke he would make the same acknowledgement regarding the JHM as compared to the Strat now, but take it FWIW.
CPT installed it… Actually bought it from Sublime Speed in Omaha, NE. Another A6 was running the setup before me.
You’ve convinced me that it was indeed the reason for the 3/10ths. Looks like I might have to invest in some lightweight wheels and have a coolant system developed this summer.
The offer stands if you can find it. Ask him in a thread if he thinks Jhm shifter is far superior to the start.
I think my cokes are safe 
Here’s David @ EC’s explanation for the fuel economy claim:
Apparently the increased efficiency (which David admits seemed outlandish to him) is based on one of their tester’s experience - the guy with a 500hp S5:
David also believes that NO ONE who buys the intake will be able to achieve the claimed increase in fuel efficiency.
So what the the fuck are they posts about it in the release thread?
If I were a betting man they realized after the fact this was a mistake and are backtracking. I would personally expect them to delete those claims from the thread and original post. Wonder if they will. That will be telling.
What I really like is how they have what appears to be a “normal” forum member 500HPS5 “writes the product release/description”… Hmmm… shouldn’t he maybe disclose that in his support comments? Sounds like he is another paperbag… Why isn’t he flagged as a vendor? This keeps getting better and better… I also like how every is quick to defend them and say well you really shouldn’t expect to see these same improvements… Really? No shit so then why are they using it as a sales and marketing tool… I’ll tell you why, because it helps to sell more intakes! LOL They should take the fuel improvement comments down as well as the power and airflow claims since it appears none of it can be substantiated…
lol 500hpS5 is their fucking employee
He came here a while back and was pretending we didn’t know who he was (we knew immediately…I had 2 PMs from other members).
It is Greg. Formerly 400hpA4 on audizine.
Here are Greg Fowler’s posts here on Audirevolution.
http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?action=profile;u=870;sa=showPosts
^^ “Many apologies, but you can’t view just any profile.”
How many posts does it take to view profiles?