That’s fricking hilarious armed!!! I literally just laughed out loud at my desk! … on lunch break of course, geez, I don’t surf car sites at work! :
Why don’t one of you guys put together a master intake thread with actual b results. Sounds like there sre so many paid shills outthere thst do the old…oh ya thus is grest picked up tons of power…here look at my log from july wirh my stock airbox in 115deg temps tthen my xxx untake in 20deg twmps look how much power I got…
I think 99% of the b8 guys here are no bs…whst works snd whst dosent kinda guys. As an enthusiastic onlooker it would be nice to know whst really works and whst is just hype
Exactly… Just like justincredible did for us in the b6/7 world . He did mega writeups on the various tunes and downpipe and catback offerings (tried and dynod and acceleration tested everything)
It basically becomes a sticky because whenever someone noobish starts a ‘what tune should I get’ thread, everyone just points to the thread after the flaming is done.
Get a new job
I sold my 1-year-old Stage II carbonio to a friend for $350. I think I picked up the Roc-Euro for less. I could have probably sold it for more, but I figured I’d give him the friendship discount. I think the open elemnent filter with a heat shield is where it’s at.
-Skid
Richi was right I can’t shut up… Lol
So now EC, is claiming their filter to be superior… Really? So it flows better? Great I think… But no they ask Pete what block they should log for air mass… lmfao… So what kind of flow testing was done? I bet we see some logs soon… They also claim they tested the “competitions”… Wonder how they did that? I’m sure they will share all those results… Good thing David is clarifying it all… Lol.
By the way, great post Pete… Ryan also made a good point but I don’t run the strat/roc euro… ;D karma bumps…
They’re fucking nuts.
They said the intake gave them 40 more miles a tank lol.
I’m confused though… If a cone filter is what… $60 or so from other companies (who make a good profit at that pricepoint) , does that mean this tube is $120? I guess when you sell someone a piggybank that you claim fills itself up (the absurd mpg claims) , people will pay anything.
One guy asked for testing results…no answer.
It’s like they’re letting someone with ADD answer the thread. Sporadically.
P. S. I didn’t see any posts by Pete. Deleted perhaps ? The first page of the thread was aggressively edited too. The second post of the thread is euro code quoting someone whose post has been deleted lol.
Edit: that’s not from EC’s thread, but I think it’s the post Ron’s referring to
My thoughts exactly bud… Brandon pointed out the correct thread… My bad…
Ahh
That thread is gold too. I liked this the best.
[quote=okan509] Why not pick up the new euro code one (intake). They never let us down with their products.
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Exactly very true.
I’m sure they used the same scientific method as they did to find the MPG increase… “Well this sure feels faster than the Roc-Euro/APR/AWE looks on youtube!”
Nice… Sad thing Ken, is you’re probably right…
Sorry Ron, I thought you just had a modified Strat. With the Mod being thermal wrap. Am I off on this?
For what they charge, the heatshield shouldn’t look like it was made in a high school shop class. This is the heatshield that CPT built for my custom, one-off intake… Now that’s craftsmanship… Hate to see it off my car
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/Ynnekdude/CPT_Heatshield2_zps0fdea0d0.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/Ynnekdude/CPT_Heatshield1_zpsb92e1845.jpg
I wanted to stay out of this but do you think vagcom is the only way to test the flow of an intake? They use benchflow testing to test their intake and the competitions intake. Also David didn’t ask Pete because he doesn’t know how to log a car, it’s funny you guys think that. He asked to see how Pete came to his conclusions, he wanted to know what values Pete was using. Also I ran a couple of revisions of the intake for months before my clutch went out and the rare times when I was driving normal I did see a MPG increase. It doesn’t matter though because people on the East coast are getting them and I’m sure Tsivas and Pete will get their hands on one sooner or later. Who knows maybe the stage 2 portion will be available to the public by then and they can test the stage 1 and stage 2. In the meantime maybe ill go to Sacramento and hit the dragstrip a little. Maybe I’ll hit up ,y buddy west and do some side by sides with him at the strip. Hopefully I break into the 12’s.
Paper, Interesting… I am aware that there are other ways of testing… Surprised that EC did this testing but isn’t posting the results? If it indeed does perform better why wouldn’t they want to use this in the marketing/advertising? Just seems odd…
Never questioned David’s ability to log a car would have thought they had already done that during the process… funny thing is my air mass readings on the version of vagcom I’m running aren’t the block that Pete stated…
That’s cool they had you testing the intake… So do you have air mass logs you can share… I would love to compare them to my readings… Would think that is something they had you looking at while testing?
The whole MPG is a pure sham so please don’t try to justify that one, it’s quite laughable really… But hey if it helps them sell more intakes I have no problem with that…
In the end the intake is probably decent and I think the tube is a good thing because of the material, the biggest problem I see with the intake is that it retains the biggest restriction, the stock air box…
I think we are all looking forward to you making some passes… hope it happens…
Good point paper re flow bench.
The mpg claim thing is a bit weird to me. It’s like they are throwing that in just as a gimmick to sell it and I’m very comfortable saying a filter change will not net you a 10% increase in fuel efficiency. How can a filter make the car use less fuel for a given amount of work? It makes zero sense.
Even they must know that it’s an unrealistic claim and that it should never be put in writing.
Notice n like page three they backtracked with a disclaimer of sorts that your mod list, conditions etc may produce different results.
Great… So don’t make the claim it the first place. Don’t say we gained 40 miles per tank increasing from 340 to 380… Then show absolutely no data to support that (a fuelly account perhaps).
No biggie… My intake is made up of a hodge podge of piecses parts… I have the APR style connector at the TB as I thought it had better fitament and had more flexibility while looking nicer… I currently use a roc euro intake and clamp… The tube is the same dimensions as the roc euro but it is a custom material that I had a tube shop my brother works with make up… In hindshight I should have made it straighter and longer and maybe even growing in size… I still may try this… Finally, as you mention it is wrapped with header wrap…
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less pumping losses, the engine exerts energy to suck the air in. now are you gonna get a 10% gain in efficiency, thats doubtful.
it would be nice if they posted the flowbench results, we never really see that. on an n/a car i like to use manifold vacuum to test intake tract improvements, less vacuum at wot being a good sign.