No he still works there, just in reduced capacity.
As I originally stated
[quote=crew219]Bingo . . . Mangrove should also be applauded for changing the way APR behaves and addresses customers/competitors publicly by limiting the role of Arin Ahnell and hiring a PR firm.
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limiting ≠ terminated
The second he’s fired, you’ll hear about it 
limiting ≠ terminated
The second he’s fired, you’ll hear about it
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Limited/terminated? Regardless, I’m sure it will solve all the tuning issues!
that wasn’t your position. Your position was “Since I (notarmed) don’t know more details, nobody else must know” (paraphrased)
[quote=notarmed]Your interpretation of the events is entirely opinion based. Nothing that you insinuate can be proven, and the facts behind the case are not known. End of story.
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Saying ‘end of story’ is pretty definite. Anyway, I warned you 
I hope Arin hasn’t been fired. I don’t have an axe to grind with him, and have found him a pretty good guy to hear from. Maybe needs a bit more of a filter when interacting with forum trolls and stuff…not that I should be criticizing anyone on not having a filter lol.
Anyway, shame they got so weakened by what sounds like someone using it as a high falluting lifestyle piggybank.
Reality is when you go to JHM and you see the guys working hard and growing the business…and then you see APR buying a fucking jet you have to ask yourself…is JHM doing something wrong?
Turns out no. They are just growing organically at a manageable pace. Jason still owns JHM. He has no board members telling him what he can or can’t do. You then see Stasis going bankrupt and a bunch of the other companies really not doing all that well. It’s not a business you can just print money in. You need to work hard, invest your capital, and run the business tight. Jets and racecars…not ideal.
Good to see he is still hooning the old black B6 lol
Where are we at on Racejets?
I think raceboats are more affordable [:D]
This applies all over. Don’t try to keep up with the Joneses…
Saying ‘end of story’ is pretty definite. Anyway, I warned you
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I am still not convinced that the storyline we are hearing is gospel.
For example, Data Point 45,178: APR Aviation Was Dissolved.
Theory A: Liquidated in order to satisfy creditors, and most importantly eliminate wasteful spending by APR.
Theory B: The best way to operate an airplane is inside their own corporation. Now was APR Aviation started with company capital? Or personal monies from Stephen and his other rich buddy? Who paid the jet fuel? APR Tuning or APR Aviation through capital contributions by Stephens personal checkbook? We have no idea.
Stephen could have just shut this down and walked away after selling the company to Mangrove. No need to have a hangar in bum fuck Alabama and an airplane to fly me around to all the tuner events if I am no longer the man.
What we do know at this moment is APR went through a recapitalization, the rest of the stuff has been unsubstantiated or corroborated (jred won’t identify himself or reveal his source). And remember, everything you read on the Internet is true! 
I live in this world and have seen reality be a lot different from perception. I have seen guys who you think are straight busted come out on the other side just fine.
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle. KCCO
Good stuff here.
As far as the expansion, I am guessing Mangrove and any other new investors were pretty heavily involved in that decision. Looking at the big picture, they want APR to be successful if they invested money in the company. The easiest way to do that is to increase in-house production, increase gross margin, and decrease development and lead-times. Building expansion allows them to do all of those things if done right (it can also go badly and sink the ship- hence why more companies outsource production than not these days).
Sadly, I’ve worked for some companies that have been in similar positions; great engineering companies that have been poorly managed. The good news is it can be turned around with an infusion of capital and competent management that understands there is more than engineering and marketing.
fun to watch notarmed spin
I don’t think anyone has said Steven Hooks and his now burgeoning burger empire won’t be just fine. I’m reasonably sure nobody gives a fuck about him to be honest. Most people are talking about APR in this thread. He was only interesting because he was part of APR, and if you believe the new controlling directors, and the employee who posted above, his strategy and vision was a big part of their financial problems.
Funny…who would have thought you need 89 people to sell hamburgers. Cut to 2016 when Mangrove Equity takes over this place and thins the staff down by 2/3
http://i375.photobucket.com/albums/oo193/sakimano/IMG-20140911-WA0001_zps106e56bd.jpg
Looks like it was his wife’s turn to start the business.
Only spinning I am doing is in my office chair.
what’s that…the new overpriced office seating idea? I have the old one. It’s uncomfortable.
My mom gave it to me for Christmas some time ago.
Its called the swopper. I like it. Forces to me sit up straight.
yeah, I looked at it. Looks like the new $2000 cool chair. I have the old $1200 cool chair. Uncomfortable
That thing looks hard on your ass.
Problem for me is that I can’t go back to a non-mesh chair because it’s so nice and cool with the mesh. The solid material chairs are hot as fuck.
I am a bicycle guy, so I am used to sitting on my cheek bones all day.
Apparently they have a new space foam version, and its $899.
I had a mesh chair, and its great for air flow, but it sucks for posture. I end up leaning back like I’m driving a low rider through East LA.
The ones with no backrest seem very uncomfortable.
The whole idea is to force you to use your core muscles to have good posture. It literally takes a month to get used to it.
Another friend of mine does something similar to this, cheaper and a little softer. Same idea.
http://wac.450f.edgecastcdn.net/80450F/961wodz.com/files/2013/02/P2025728-630x472.jpg
Ya a guy in my office uses the medicine ball. Definitely not for me lol
Same. I have the Aeron chair.
For me it’s the ‘waterfall front edge’ which is actually sharp on the top and stabs the back of my thighs. Uncomfortable. So I slide my ass quite a bit forward till it’s just short of the edge of the chair and my legs are away from the edge…but then like you, I end up sitting like a cholo.
I have a ball here. I have never used it. I wish someone were to come to me and offer me $600 for my Aeron. I would sell it in a heartbeat.
When I was in Paris on the subway they had these leaners…basically a barely padded seat, but it’s quite high off the ground so you can just lean your ass up against it, you don’t have to sit all the way down. So you can almost stand, but be supported. I’d like a chair that allows that. Then I’d like my computer up nice and high at eye level, and keyboard too. Then you can stand, or lean, and your back isn’t vulturelike.
Similar to this concept…there’s seats here, but also leaning sections
That thing looks fantastic. Philly.
http://www.veyko.com/custom/septa.html#
http://www.veyko.com/custom/septa%20images/septa04.jpg
http://blog.archpaper.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/septa02-500x374.jpg
We have some stools kind of like that at work that have a rounded rubber bottom that’s filled with sand (I think) so you can essentially just lean into them when you’re at the work bench.
They seem great for the first 45min or so, until your feet start sliding ever so slightly. Then you’re having to adjust your feet constantly cause your toes are getting jammed into the front of your shoes and then you gotta stand up and adjust your pants cause you’re starting to get a nudgie…yeah I’ll stick with standing or sitting. Haha