Audi C6 S6 v10 Info Dump

New-ish S6 4F5 Avant 2007 owner from Finland chiming in on this awesome topic. Sorry for the long post, but I want to be informative (and rant alot).

Got a high-mileage one, 337000km+ on the odo. People keep warning me about it being a huge timebomb! %(

Still, thinking the engine should have gone south, years ago, with it’s 40000km, yes, you read right, 40000km long-life service. Hopefully giving it the TLC it needs now, I intend to keep it running and improve on it if possible.

I have poor documentation of service after 225000km, and up to that, no atm oilswap and a 40000km LL service plan. WTF?? Original owner and Audi dealer?? WTF? But despite the fact, it seems to be okay. Apparently has MTM V-max done (top speed limiter removed). Otherwise quite stock. Engine and trans pulls like it should.

Anyhow, the guy who imported this thing, apparently ran a 13.550sec 1/4mile on this almost stock familywagon :smile:

Quite quick, but, I am heavily contemplating on schrik high lift/long duration cams and head porting, in addition to swapping the smooth economic quiet humane intake for the straight non neutered RS6 one, while modifying the intake, to allow for more cold air and less heat soak. Exhaust will be either a custom 3 inch cat-back with 3 inch “sport” resonators and mufflers, or the same with magnaflow or rs6 rear silencers.

Apparently the previous owner had issues with the car, and after the dealer serviced the car to an amount of around 10k eur, he still dumped the car to the dealer… so I got a bargain, because they just needed to get rid of their un-sellable shop queen.

I had an issue with the intake, flaps were stuck open. Apparently they cleaned the intakes but one “E-clip” was missing on one of the actuator shafts, so it was dangling loose. The brakes were shot. As first aid I got front discs and caliper slide pins and bushes from Audi, 926eur. Pads would’ve been 408eur, got cheap aftermarket phaeton/s8 pads instead, for now, 69e. Will look for cost effective aftermarket solution in the summer when I replace rear discs and pads.

Biggest problem I’m having, is the front coolant return pipe is leaking. It has rusted next to the welded joint. Ordered new pipe and the 3 or 4 adjacent coolant hoses, for about 250e. Hoping the culprit has been rocks and saltwater, and the rear pipes/hoses are still ok. Otherwise it’s prolly engine out. At the same time was going to replace thermostat and waterpump propeller. But the assembled oem pump/thermostat package cost 404e so I ordered the whole shebang.

I hope the maintenance will slowly go back to “normal” level on mine, and I can concentrate on enjoying this masterpiece of car I’ve got my nails on :devil:

Edit: more ‘old-car’/‘poor mfg’ problems
Forgot to mention my adaptive cruise control is working-not working-working and one front parking sensor is broken, one rear sensor wire has oxidized and broken off the connector… The ACC seems to have some sort of wiring issue, related to the leaking/spraying coolant overflow pipe and very sharp edges of the front bumper crash member (wiring is chafing on it and the coolant shorts everything).

Cheers!
Kristjan

Just my opinion, but that’s probably because the S6 was kinda’ “lame” in Europe, we had the RS6, so people who wanted refinement, went for S8, and ones who wanted sport-sedan/wagon took the RS6, leaving the short stick to the S6. Because the C6 RS6 was not imported to N-A, S6/S8 were the only contenders there. Thus more widely sold and known. Still, I like the understated looks and N/A sound and feel of the C6 S6 over the bi-turbo C6 RS6… although when built correctly that car can be insanely … insane:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DNIqrs-ZSiAk&ved=2ahUKEwi9u6Ooy5PoAhVtwosKHbprA0UQwqsBMAB6BAgGEAQ&usg=AOvVaw23wajOMfSqGFrjDrLLim5Q

Cheers,
Kristjan

Oh, not to mention, in Europe, gasoline prices are absurd. So a turbo always wins, when someone compares say, 3yr lease costs. Even if the turbo car costs a.leg and an arm more. The big N/A is a gas guzzler and makes for a poor gas economy, even in FSI. (Mine plows through 98RON E5% at around 12litres/100km or 19.6mpg.) and we think 4 litres/100km or less, or 58.8mpg+ is the good number…

Edit, mostly highway driving, it gets slightly, not awfully, worse in town.

Do you really manage 12l/100km?
Best I’ve got was 17,4l/100km RON98.
Mostly I get between 19 and 22 l/100km.

The car runs and performs just fine, has had 10 new injectors a year ago.
Does this mean I’m due a carbon clean?

@dzow when was the last time you had a carbon clean…
What maintenance did you do at the time of the injectors. What was the carbon situation like when you did the injectors. That will all tell you if you need to do anything.

This injector change was with the Previous owner.
I have a bill from a Bosch specialist where the car was because it was running rough. They then switched injector 8 and all the spark plugs after troubleshooting everything. A few days after this bill I have a second bill for the 9 other injectors (last owner had a company with a truck repair of its own therefore there are 2 bills).

The first bill isn’t totally clear since they ‘cleaned’ the engine but it doesn’t say what method.

That’s why I’m considering a walnut blasting but I wanted some advice first because they charge me 800€ here to do it and the only reason is the consumption that seems high.
Other then that no codes whatsoever.

Sorry, as forum newbie, I was not allowed to reply straight away. In my case consumption depends heavily on driving. I was hypermiling and actually got it momentarily under 11.4, but it went back up to around 12 after a few “spirited” passes. Around town it gets worse, even when trying to be decent.

My average for about 5000km is around 16,5L/100km, over half of it is highway driving (quite heavy on the gas pedal mostly)

Can aftermarket suspension options be discussed in more detail?

2008 Audi S6, second owner, 95,000
Took the chance and so far has payed off, alough I did notice there was some oil drops
I took the plastic cover off and it looks like it is starting from the front, any ideas

Oil leaks are a very real thing with the 5.2 if the maintenance isn’t up to date.

Generally the two major sources of oil are from the valve covers and then from the oil filter housing O rings. when the O rings leak the oil goes into the motor valley and then come out the drain holes in the front of the block

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It is coming from the front(looks like what you are talking about)

I can search later when I have time and help shown more documentation… Feel free to make a standalone thead on this and your introduction. There are many pictures and members who have all had this as a normal thing.

My belly pan looked like that. It was the figure 8 and sandwich flat gasket under the oil filter housing filling up the space under the IM full of oil. Dripping down the front

Spacers for the intake manifold. Man I know there are zero mods for our S6 c6 . So I started fabricating things. AL Spacers I got the idea from jhm.

There are tons of mods for the S6

There is a 2.75 exhaust
ECU tune
TCU tune
LW crank pulley
Intake spacers
LW rotors

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I chose the v10 so I wouldnt have an endless list of mods to do to it. Get in and go

I have a question, wondering if any other C6 owners experience what I am.
Under hard acceleration near WOT my car will consistently lose power momentarily around 4500-5000rpm. I have wondered if the manifold is not functioning as it should?
Also, sporadically under the same throttle input the car will surge and accelerate for a brief moment(seemingly not matching how much throttle I am applying). Fuel pumps?
Any thoughts would be appreciated.

I would always start with are you getting any stored codes.

The pause in power in that range could be the intake as thats when the flaps activate for the TQ change over. But also people see fuel related or 02 related issues.

You can always log the fuel side to see. Is this something repeatable over and over.

Thank you for the response!
Yes it a consistent thing I have noticed since I bought the car.
I am waiting for a VCDS from Ross-Tech, would that be sufficient to look into any fuel pressure or IM codes? I would to scan the car and get a baseline.
The car runs great than this though and its the only V10 S6 in here, beautiful car and the low end torque is in the big block territory!
Thanks for your help and I will send a message when I get a scan done.
Cheers