There was a stock 13+ S5 that went 13.0 I believe. He posts on a5oc
http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj635/jo51pme/DOC110213.jpg
There was a stock 13+ S5 that went 13.0 I believe. He posts on a5oc
http://i1271.photobucket.com/albums/jj635/jo51pme/DOC110213.jpg
Yup, I have all of that stuff (go pro, vag, etc.)
But it’s my first time so I am gonna just video it – concentrate on technique and practice.
At my track day couple weeks back I was hitting 120ish in 4th gear, so the gearing change should be interesting to see.
Understood… Please though if possible use the gopro also… It will tell us so much about the shift points and shifting of your car… The one video of your car I watched had it short shifting very often and that will kill you at the strip… would like to see that at a WOT blast from in car on the strip… Just attach it to your sun roof and leave it on… Before you stage hit the button to start the vid and then after each pass hit it to stop… It’s really not much more to do and won’t take away your concentration like vagcom could potentially… IMO that is easy as well but again that is your calll… I just like to know as much about what is going on as possible…
This is a DSG car? Where does the 2009-2012 DSG top out in 4th gear?
Like I said, I will Go Pro it, that is no problem. I just don’t want to fuck around with a computer, cables, securing it, etc. I just want to stage and go.
2013
DSG
BBS-CHR 19x9.5 with michelin PSS
ST-60 380mm
My car has a lower redline with different gearing, and shifts at ~6300 RPM. Guess we will find out how this affects my times.
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Depends on wheel/tire diameter… Most 19 wheel/tire combos that people are running will be about 115-117…
Gotcha… I mistook your earlier comment as having someone from the outside tape it…
I don’t have much experience with AWD at the strip. It’s typically not the setup most people run as it really offers no advantage.
On another topic is there any data to suggest that launch control cuts time?
No advantage?
Here’s some data, fresh from last weekend: http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=1731.msg44257#msg44257
CCWS4 cool to see another header guy…am a b7 s4 headers guy jhm long tube for those that have headers they totally make the exhaust more sharp. On our 4.2 they add a ton of power what CV said I think really helps open the debate more as I see a huge difference in wot and non wot power
Were you saying AWD has no advantage at the track…
Launch Control on the b8 s4 not sure how much it helps…on the b7 s4…and I would assume its going to be close for the b8 it makes a huge difference but thats jhm launch assist…
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I would say the stock LC has very little to no benefit but it isn’t available on the 2010’s so I don’t have personal experience… A real tune based LC would obviously benefit, but my 60’s last weekend were 1.6268, 1.6228, and 1.6530 so not to bad when you are cutting Nissan GTRish 60’s! I’m just launching off idle… lol
I was just saying that a similarly equipped RWD car should be able to perform as well on ET. There is no inherent bias one way or another at these HPs. Except maybe the AWD is easier to drive down the track.
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That’s awesome. Based on what I’ve seen, your car is on the tail of the statistical distribution. That’s an interesting question you pose about LC, I don’t know if any of the tunes do anything with it. I have a 2011 and have tried it a couple of times. The LC event count is logged, I noticed it other day when I was poking around.
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These cars need a TCU tune to impact LC not the ECU tune… However, some have claimed that the APR tune “messed up” their LC… They said it would rev higher but bog when launching… Don’t think anyone ever did timed runs to prove or disprove though? Again, since I don’t have it I can’t say for sure one way or the other… Yeah I stumbled on that block a few years ago and it has been mentioned by quite a few…
You are talking in circles.
You mentioned a great deal of variability in the dragstrip as part of your dismissal of dragstrip results.
Then when shown the awd auto cars are in fact incredibly consistent, you ignore it.
Then when asked about your comment that awd is not an advantage you admit it makes it easier.
Then you go offside again and claim rwd cars can match awd cars all else being equal. Thats wrong.
Show me a 4000 lb rwd car making stage two b8 s4 power levels (340-370 whp depending on whose dyno you believe) that cuts 1.6-1.7 sixty foot times on street tires. I will give you all month.
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I think it definitely is beneficial. Last time at Englishtown I consistently did .1x better in the 60ft and .3x better in the 1/8 when using LC. Just take a look at my time slips.
http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=1691.msg43566#msg43566
I will try to hit the strip again at the test and tune next Wednesday night and run the 100 file. I will do both LC and no LC and we can compare again then.
The variability in drag strip results coming from drivers that have very little experience both with driving and the setup. It was in my assertion that a professional driver is a smart idea for a company when testing mods. When somebody blasted a company for using professional drivers.
As far as the dyno results go I thought nearly everyone agreed that they were of little value, why are you bringing them up again? You will find a good deal of 4000 lb cars with similar 1/4 mile times. When I say ET I mean 1/4 mile, not all the other trap times. A similar car is a street car, not one that is brought in on a trailer.
These cars need a TCU tune to impact LC not the ECU tune… However, some have claimed that the APR tune “messed up” their LC… They said it would rev higher but bog when launching… Don’t think anyone ever did timed runs to prove or disprove though? Again, since I don’t have it I can’t say for sure one way or the other… Yeah I stumbled on that block a few years ago and it has been mentioned by quite a few…
I didn’t notice any bogging on mine with the APR tune. In fact quite the opposite, it snapped me back a little in my seat, much more abrupt then a normal mash the pedal launch.
The variability in drag strip results coming from drivers that have very little experience both with driving and the setup. It was in my assertion that a professional driver is a smart idea for a company when testing mods. When somebody blasted a company for using professional drivers.
As far as the dyno results go I thought nearly everyone agreed that they were of little value, why are you bringing them up again? You will find a good deal of 4000 lb cars with similar 1/4 mile times. When I say ET I mean 1/4 mile, not all the other trap times. A similar car is a street car, not one that is brought in on a trailer.[/size]
How else are you going to compare two cars with all else being equal other than an approximate range of dyno results?
Anyway, I’m still waiting for you to post an RWD car weighing around 4000 lbs that can match the B8 S4 ET with its power level ,on street tires. I asked for 60’ times similar because last time I checked, if we’re making the same power and weigh the same…and I get out 4 tenths ahead of you to 60’ you are never going to catch me.
But as I said, I can’t wait to see you show that AWD is not an advantage.
I think it definitely is beinefficienticial. Last time at Englishtown I consistently did .1x better in the 60ft and .3x better in the 1/8 when using LC. Just take a look at my time slips.
http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=1691.msg43566#msg43566
I will try to hit the strip again at the test and tune next Wednesday night and run the 100 file. I will do both LC and no LC and we can compare again then.
Cool! looking forward to the results… what is your non LC technique? Are you left foot braking and mashing the gas while dumping brake? Just curious… Keep us posted…