B8 S4 runs 11.67 and it's not me... Boom...

primetime · December 8, 2019, 2:07pm

J, Understood on the DA… These cars seem to run best at right around sea level especially if you can have a 50ish degree temp so there is some heat to the track… Too cold and traction becomes the issue or you need to run a tire pressure that hurts on the big end… From what I know he runs APR tune, pulley, CPS, lw rotors, stasis exhaust, and stasis wheels… Shows that the stock exhaust logs and cats on these cars aren’t hurting performance at all… So much for headers and HFC’s… at least until stage III… As for the time cut and ET p/u, I can relate as best I could muster in 3100 DA was 12.1 and traps were off 3-4mph… I have traded a few emails with Ryan prior to this and have no doubt it’s legit… His 12.2 runs were done at a 2000ish DA and as I mentioned these at basically sea level…

Saki, I agree it’s not a IHRA/NHRA track but I still think it’s legit… I’ll be disappointed if Arin doesn’t post the time and I think you should honor it as well on here… That’s not my call though…

At the end of the day of course I am disappointed not to have the fastest time but it’s been 2+ years so I am just glad to see the platform moving forward and if anything this helps further validate my times since they were somewhat of an outlier prior… Weather permitting I’ll see if I can get back to the top next weekend…

bangoman · December 8, 2019, 2:07pm

I don’t know about the AZ list, but our’s calls for an NHRA/IHRA track, otherwise lots of those pop up strip European times could be added.

sakimano · December 8, 2019, 2:08pm

Yeah if you add this time you have to add the airstrip times and parking lot times.

I’m sure its a legit time as we already have seen what, three other B8 guys run in the elevens?

But we need to keep the standards in place. Before anyone calls me a b8 hater, as an example, the fastest we have ever seen an m90 supercharged 4.2 run was mid twelves…but at crail Dannyrs4 went 11.7. That didn’t get added to the list, because it was not a certified dragstrip.

He (Ryan) is near a certified dragstrip, so I’m sure he can go there in equally good weather.

Arin imposed a bunch of rules after he got duped by kevkev…and this time doesn’t meet any of them. Since it is an APR car I reckon it will get added pronto, despite this.

bangoman · December 8, 2019, 2:08pm

Either way PT is still no 1. This guy’s time may well be fast and genuine but that’s like Usain Bolt saying he ran a 9.50 once in training. He went to Route 66 before, why didn’t he go again?

81bear · December 8, 2019, 2:08pm

I have no problem letting the time stand on the list. It was never established or denoted that times must be achieved on a NHRA/IHRA track so to me it’s valid. Though they should probably add a column that specifies the type of track (IHRA/NHRA/air strip/etc.) so that we can sort through the data easier.

sakimano · December 8, 2019, 2:08pm

You are kidding? Not sure if you are referring to Arin’s thread (for which that time also does not qualify as there is no forum witness and no video), but on this site the rules are pretty simple.

Posted May 7th in the database thread

REVOLUTIONARY RESULTS - Dragstrip database update notification thread

This thread will serve as a ‘notifier’ of new additions to the audirevolution.net quarter mile database. As I have mentioned on a couple of the forums, the site owner has created a really cool database that is searchable/sortable and will have ALL relevant Audi quarter mile times added to it for the various platforms. Subscribe to this thread (notify button) and you can then have an instant email update everytime something gets added to the list.

Some things to note:

no timeslip = no time
non-certified dragstrips will also not be added. Basically only results from a proper dragstrip with standardized/certified timing systems will be included. Examples of runs that will not be included:

pbox quarter mile times - should be self explanatory

temporary airstrip type dragstrip event times - there are lots of these in Europe as they unfortunately don’t have many proper dragstrips. Including them is tough because they often calculate trap speed differently and rely on GPS or radar gun devices etc. That’s not really fair to compare to times that were run on a certified track with controls etc. on the timing and track setup. i.e. someone who goes to say Santa Pod in England, an IHRA certified track with full on 60’, 330’, 1/8, 1/8mph, 1000’, 1/4 and 1/4 mph timeslips.

It would also be preferred if someone could post video of a significant time, as well as two of their timeslips from the track. A photo of the car at the strip with the grease paint numbers on the window would also help validation. Not that anyone here is going to pull any fast ones, but we can’t forget that people like kevkev etc. are out there, so we have to be dilligent in protecting the integrity of this list.

When you post up your times either here, or in your respective platform’s subforum, remember to include as much info about the run as possible i.e.:
tune
downpipes/catback
octane of the fuel you used
power adder on your car (if stock, say so i.e. B5 S4 K03 or B8 S4 TVSr1320…and if you’re a B5 with K04/RS6 hybrids, make note. If you’re an NA car with a supercharger setup, give as much info as you can about the kit and the power adder )
boost/shot (if you’re a boosted car and know the peak boost, post it up. If you’re running nitrous, post the jet size)
other mods (intake mani? lw rotors? FMIC/SMIC? etc.)
other info (any weight reduction done? tire size? density altitude if you know it…however DA corrected times are never going on this list, but it is always interesting to know in extreme cases if a car ran at say -1000 feet, or +6000 feet)

Lastly, this database is fun, and a little competitive, but it’s also VERY educational about what the cars with various mods are capable of. If you go to the strip, even if you run a mediocre time, post it up. Gathering data is the chief reason we have this list, and it’s always great to be able to do relevant comparisons.

euroswagr · December 8, 2019, 2:08pm

I think that we should stick to our rules. If his car is indeed this fast and he really cares about forum 1/4 mile databases, he will go run at a sanctioned track, I know that I would. Adding in every other type of 1/4 mile run (regardless of where it was conducted) will not only add a bunch of “Junk” to the database to sift through, but it will open it up to people once again trying to cheat the system to look fast. The AR database will turn into the “UnOfficial 60-130mph Challenge” thread where guys video tape their speedometers and try to document times by a stop watch…haha

bangoman · December 8, 2019, 2:08pm

Well put euroswagr. On the ATCO thread, there’s guys doing 3h trips to get to a certified strip.

tsivas27 · December 8, 2019, 2:08pm

Wasn’t sure if you were referring to my pbox unofficial 60-130 thread here but that’s as legit as you can get.
Same strip every time. Same pbox used. I am there for every run. Don’t accept data from other places/people. Only what I log. Saki can vouch for validity of that info.

If you weren’t … never mind.

I agree with rules put in place. Certified dragstrips only.

Jspazz · December 8, 2019, 2:08pm

^^^ 8 hr trip…but I managed to combine a work trip to the Roche facility in there…

Anyhow, not my rules, but I’d think the 11.67 should be added, I’m sure it will get added to AZ, but who knows.

Look at the mph on the slips posted. It’s quite crazy that he trapped 118 to 119 consistently…that’s 6 mph faster than he did before. I mean, weather, sure, but that’s a 50 hp difference. I tried to look up the wind speed there, no luck.

tsivas27 · December 8, 2019, 2:08pm

First of all… that track seems shady as all hell. LOL just reading some posts on it. Not best place to bring your family.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faoFVmL-S4E&feature=youtu.be

The empty ambulance/extremely shady owner might be part of reason for the lack of NHRA certification we seek. ;D

Wish he had a pbox slapped onto his car… would love to see the type of decline there, b/c there definitely is one, especially towards the end/post 1/8th mile mark.

The two cars (Prime’s and his) were essentially dead even from the start up to the 1/8th mile mark ET/trap-wise (prime was actually ahead up to 330 ft), yet at the 1/4 mile mark he ends up trapping 1.6mph more than Prime?

That’s a huge difference, especially given that both cars are DSG and are at top of fourth or shifting into fifth at end. And then I scratch my head at seeing a 113 mph trap as his previous best :-\

Those traps sound ridiculously high for those mods.

119 mph? WTF?

http://imageshack.us/a/img266/9549/photo4ff.jpg

Here is weather info for 2:55pm that day anyways… (Corrected)

No Limit Raceway
(formerly U.S. 41 Dragway)

Track Elevation: 680 feet above sea level

Air Temperature: 50.4 degrees F

Barometric Pressure: 30.22 inches Hg

Relative Humidty: 51%

Density Altitude: 12 feet
Relative Density: 99.97 %

Didn’t seem to be a windy day per weather archives.

81bear · December 8, 2019, 2:08pm

Was referring to AZ list and specifically to the type of track not being specified.

If you really want to vet the top time it should require two slips both besting the top time on different days and/or require verification via pbox.

Back to the most recent top time I do find it a bit suspect that he switched tracks to post this best time…

sakimano:

You are kidding? Not sure if you are referring to Arin’s thread (for which that time also does not qualify as there is no forum witness and no video), but on this site the rules are pretty simple.

Posted May 7th in the database thread

REVOLUTIONARY RESULTS - Dragstrip database update notification thread

This thread will serve as a ‘notifier’ of new additions to the audirevolution.net quarter mile database. As I have mentioned on a couple of the forums, the site owner has created a really cool database that is searchable/sortable and will have ALL relevant Audi quarter mile times added to it for the various platforms. Subscribe to this thread (notify button) and you can then have an instant email update everytime something gets added to the list.

Some things to note:

no timeslip = no time
non-certified dragstrips will also not be added. Basically only results from a proper dragstrip with standardized/certified timing systems will be included. Examples of runs that will not be included:

pbox quarter mile times - should be self explanatory

temporary airstrip type dragstrip event times - there are lots of these in Europe as they unfortunately don’t have many proper dragstrips. Including them is tough because they often calculate trap speed differently and rely on GPS or radar gun devices etc. That’s not really fair to compare to times that were run on a certified track with controls etc. on the timing and track setup. i.e. someone who goes to say Santa Pod in England, an IHRA certified track with full on 60’, 330’, 1/8, 1/8mph, 1000’, 1/4 and 1/4 mph timeslips.

It would also be preferred if someone could post video of a significant time, as well as two of their timeslips from the track. A photo of the car at the strip with the grease paint numbers on the window would also help validation. Not that anyone here is going to pull any fast ones, but we can’t forget that people like kevkev etc. are out there, so we have to be dilligent in protecting the integrity of this list.

When you post up your times either here, or in your respective platform’s subforum, remember to include as much info about the run as possible i.e.:
tune
downpipes/catback
octane of the fuel you used
power adder on your car (if stock, say so i.e. B5 S4 K03 or B8 S4 TVSr1320…and if you’re a B5 with K04/RS6 hybrids, make note. If you’re an NA car with a supercharger setup, give as much info as you can about the kit and the power adder )
boost/shot (if you’re a boosted car and know the peak boost, post it up. If you’re running nitrous, post the jet size)
other mods (intake mani? lw rotors? FMIC/SMIC? etc.)
other info (any weight reduction done? tire size? density altitude if you know it…however DA corrected times are never going on this list, but it is always interesting to know in extreme cases if a car ran at say -1000 feet, or +6000 feet)

Lastly, this database is fun, and a little competitive, but it’s also VERY educational about what the cars with various mods are capable of. If you go to the strip, even if you run a mediocre time, post it up. Gathering data is the chief reason we have this list, and it’s always great to be able to do relevant comparisons.

euroswagr · December 8, 2019, 2:08pm

I don’t understand…on one hand your think it should be added, but on the other you question the legitimacy because of his abnormally crazy pick up in time and mph.

With that point, maybe we should question why this track isn’t sanctioned…and how much of a decline it may have.

Someone else already said…why would he chose this track when he has ran at sanctioned tracks?

…and 2 slips besting a top time IMHO is a lot to ask, sometimes the stars only align once. If it is a guys first time out and he shatters a record he better have other slip with runs very close to his best slip, otherwise people will question it.

Also, to add to my rant…I looked over on AZ and he says “I don’t car if anyone believes that I ran it, I know I did”
Kinda BS if you ask me, if you are the fastest of any platform out there it’s a pretty great accomplishment. Did he only run once? Why has no one asked to see his other slips? I’m not calling this guy a fake, just curious.

primetime · December 8, 2019, 2:08pm

Saki, Understood…

J/tsivas, yeah I noticed that with the trap also right away… He is nearly identical mph wise in the 1/8th but picks up a ton(over 1.5mph) on the backend… probably a slight drop at the end of the strip potentially causing the higher traps… I do wonder if he shifts into 5th… Also, wonder exactly what fuel he is running… I’ll ask on AW as he setup an account and posted there… I’ll have him post the other details, ie tire pressure, amount of gas, things removed, etc.

Also, he ran on the 27th and the DA was 12, you posted numbers from the 26th…

Euro, He posted other slips on AZ… Also, I agree he cares as he emailed me minutes after the pass and posted the title of his thread as “There’s a new sheriff in town, and his name is 11.67” Never knew I was thought of as a sheriff! lol In the end I am happy for him and glad that others are testing this car on the strip… I don’t think he is trying to scam, did he go to a favorable track, probably…

tsivas27 · December 8, 2019, 2:08pm

Sorry Prime- corrected it. +12 it was.

bangoman · December 8, 2019, 2:08pm

http://www.7machine.com/car/75500.html
http://www.realoldspower.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=9947&sid=abd420e3e6e4a1da7db6c1d56f374332

Looks like it was IHRA once upon a time. Wonder what happened.

sakimano · December 8, 2019, 2:08pm

He was referring to the unofficial 60-130 thread on AZ where guys post video of their speedo or vag logs, even if they are running down the side of a mountain.

euroswagr · December 8, 2019, 2:08pm

Thanks Saki, exactly what I was talking about…I was going to PM him in order to not clog up the thread, but you beat me too it.

It took a look at his other slips, either I missed those or they weren’t up earlier. He ran within 5 minutes of getting there…after a 1.5 hour drive…then he ran 5 times in 20 minutes, talk about hot lapping…

Primetime, do you cool down at all at the strip? I’m just kinda amazed…being a 4.2 guy, that these cars car run like that back to back.

81bear · December 8, 2019, 2:08pm

If I can hot lap I usually run 3-5 consecutive runs before I think about a 35-45 min cool down. When I dynoed my car it continued to pickup hp for 11 straight pulls.

euroswagr · December 8, 2019, 2:08pm

Interesting, like I said I was curios…I feel like if I sit in the stanging lanes for more than 30 secs I should just abandon the run…haha