Boom! The record is mine again…

B8 S4
#29

Lol

They are selling and have sold this to dozens if not hundreds of people, and it still doesn’t work.

He’s not being honest. He’s making excuses for why the tcu on b8 cars is shit…and making no apologies for not doing their homework. Meanwhile primetime and whoever else have been struggling for over a year with this thing. And APR have collected tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Honesty would be ‘you know what? We screwed up. We thought knew what we were doing but it turns out we don’t. Sorry and here’s a refund for a product we should never have brought to market.’

#30

The TCU tune isn’t only for the dragstrip.

Regardless of amax shifting not working 100%, raising redline to 7200 should have a advantage which only the TCU tune could give. Plus real redline without upshift, plus disabling kickdown, plus launch control in 2010 cars (I don’t want it, but some do). Some of those things I would like.

#31

[quote=“primetime,post:27,topic:8126”]
No it doesn’t suck, it FUCKING sucks. If you don’t see that your Apr underoos are on a little tight.

You’re bragging about your 60 time which is indeed shockingly good…but you should be patting audi on the back not Apr. Your dsg tune launch control isn’t even involved in your 60’ because YOU HAD TO ASK APR TO DISABLE IT!

Should I repost the videos of your car rolling when it shouldn’t and your 2.0 second 60’ times when you used it? How many cars on drag times beat that?

Hopefully you rethink that part of your post because it’s WAY off the mark.

And frankly no it doesn’t take a ton of skill to run a dsg 1/4 mile time or a zf 1/4 mile time. Nor does it take much skill in a manual audi for that matter. Drive a RWD car with over 400 hp and post a great time for the trap speed and I will be impressed. But running something nice in a dsg with quattro…lol nobody’s getting a troohy for that. Not you not rynurz who beat you, not Jeff Jones who beat you and not Auditude3.0T who beat you. Remember those guys? I don’t remember them looking for pats on the back for their skill.

Even then who the fuck cares? When did this become a discussion about 1/4 mile skill? We’re talking about your new record, your great JHM overdrive pulley and how shit your dsg tune is.

#32

Dupesauce

#33

Only 1 way to find out - PT should run without the TCU tune

#34

Cool, so I had it right then… Good to know…

Honestly, I don’t think you care to talk about any records or my driving in general, just more on how bad APR is and how good JHM is… I get it…

#35

Primetime your line of discussion is kind of weird.

Correct me if Im wrong on anything. Please.

  1. The Apr TCU tune was making your car launch SLOWER than a stock tcu tune, so you had Apr delete their launch program

  2. The Apr TCU tune is making your car shift slower than a stock tcu tune
    , as evidenced by the videos and your posts.

  3. Apr knows this and to explain it Apr claims it’s because the 1st Gen hardware is shit and can’t handle their tcu tuning…yet they still sell the tune for $1000 or whatever it is

Is any of that wrong? I don’t get this whole sensitive thing about your driving skills? You get the most out of your car. So do a dozen other B8 S4 guys. Maybe more? Who cares if vogz makes cracks about how easy driving a dsg is? Literally nobody takes that personally but you.

Frankly I’ve driven a dsg and I didn’t feel like I could possibly fuck it up. I cut a 1.72 60’ on pump gas with tune pulleys and intake , and I weigh 240 lbs. Went 12.2@114 while bleeding off boost and with super conservative parameters. My first pass ever. Maybe I should get a trophy?

#36

That doesn’t fit the ‘go Apr’ narrative. I’ve suggested it for weeks and for whatever reason, he continues to run as is. Why? Who knows. Maybe so it doesn’t make Apr look bad? If he goes 11.26@123.5 on stock tcu tune that destroys Apr’s sales.

I get supporting a company that is good to you. I do it with JHM. Good guys make good parts that work… So they get my support. I don’t get the whole praising Apr for their tcu tune because of a 60’ time when Apr had zero influence on that 60’ time. That’s just weird.

#37

Saki, I’m not going to go back and forth… It’s all good…

#38

Don’t make snide comments about me and then disappear. Address my comments about the tcu and tell me where I’m wrong.

#39

lol!

snide comments? disappear?

  1. Yes, my car can launch better than APR’s LC so it was removed, they’ve admitted to that… That’s old news anyway… I’m pretty sure you have an option to get it or not get it when you buy… No driver skill so anyone should be able to cut a 1.57 60ft time…
  2. Yes, when the shift hangs up/bounces off the limiter it shifts slower… I’ve never argued that point nor has APR, they’re working on making it not happen… Think I’ve said that numerous times…
  3. OK, if you call that their explanation that’s fine…

No hard feelings on my driving any idiot could do it on this shitty dsg tune…

I’m sure your times were a result of good driving and the superior JHM tune… Can’t wait to see more results…

Oh but until then… my car still has the best ET, MPH, and 60ft time… Even with all it’s issues… Looking forward to next year… Have a good one!

#40

Ok so you’re agreeing with what I said about the tcu tune. Good stuff. You seemed confused for a minute there. You should edit your former posts.

No ‘my times’ in Georges b8 s4 were a result of the great audi dsg and the jhm tune, 2 pulleys and an intake. Not my driving. I don’t think much skill was involved in the times I ran to be honest. I managed to cut a good 60 foot time vs an ok one because of your posts here explaining how to do it for the most part. And because dsg is excellent.

You openly and publicly mocked the GIAC DSG tune launch control and tcu programming for 2 years because your stock audi tcu was performing better. That was before you made yourself the poster boy for the Apr dsg tuning program…which now makes your tcu perform worse than stock AND GIAC lol. That’s some comedy there.

Anyway I still don’t understand why you’re talking about driving skill. That was vogz who made a crack on audizine about how easy dsg is. I don’t think I saw anyone mention you anywhere. You’ve got a bit of a Carly Simon thing going on there. Also vogZ is calling dsg quattro easy vs a RWD big hp car with a clunky shifter and an awful gearbox… Aka a nightmare. But why you’re taking that personally I have no idea.

#41

A lot of pretty nasty comments here, I think someone should relax, have a coke and a smile lol.

#42

I don’t like when people talk shit. I also don’t like when people hide from the facts.

I think primetime is awesome and literally is the most straight up, helpful, upstanding guy on any audi forum and I’ve told him as much over the years.

However I think he is taking my criticism of the Apr TCU and their business practice (selling this faulty, useless tcu tune that they themselves admit Gen 1 cars are not fit for and which multiple members of this site have had trouble with if my pm inbox is any indication) as criticism of primetime personally…and that makes no sense to me.

#43

It would be ok if we were all going after EPL for shit service and tuning…right? or Jfonz…

Remember, we don’t really give anyone a free pass here. That is why some of you like this place. We should keep everyone honest…no favorites.

#44

Ron you sly dog you :o

I should have grew some and just drove through the night to your place on Friday and went with you.

I think I was just a little bummed out that the wife was cramping my vibe on taking the journey all the way to ATCO just to try and break a record. LOL. Once I realized it was still 5hrs to drive to you for positive DA I had my mind made up.

Good stuff buddy, glad you were able to get the reflash in time. Next year should be fun. But I am defiantly going to try and rally the troops for a trip into the states.

It would be cool to get a bunch of us and head down. the guys I know doing decent number up here in the North. i.e. Jones2012s4 (Jeff the Pimp), S4matty (Matt) & 2000s4 (George) I don’t know anyone else in this area in the mid or close to mid 11 numbers.

But, it would be awesome to meet up at a central location. ATCO would be great to see the possible lowest numbers, but another track mid way would be ideal. It would be interesting to see what Pete’s car does at a different track. We should try and plan something for April - ish.

#45

Most automatic B8 S4s run around 2.37 x their 330’ time for the 1/4 mile et. Ones with functioning DSG transmissions do anyway.

Based on that Primetime 4.735 330 foot time on his 11.450 pass was on pace for 11.22. And that includes a 1-2 and a 2-3 shift…so if any of those are hanging you can imagine what that’s doing to slow him down even by 330.

His 1.57 60’ run produced a 4.696 330. That’s on pace for 11.13

GO (slower with) APR!

#46

I guess the bromance is over. :’(

#47

Congrats on the new time. That a big step forward and funny to see one week apr the next week giac and then back to apr.

Lots of respect for also mentioning the down side of the transmission tune. I think its going to be a crazy run for you when they get that figured out.

#48

I think it’s well established that the TCU tune by APR isn’t quite there yet. I don’t think anyone has that illusion. Prime has also had shift hang ups on his stock TCU as well.

That said, prime is at the top of the list again (subpar TCU tune or otherwise).

He’ll only get faster once that gets sorted out.

And while I’m going to stay out of it, I’ll just say that there’s not really much to gain (nor is it very constructive) saying ‘anyone can do it’ on DSG. Not everyone can do it, or else it would be really crowded on the 1/4 mile list. :slight_smile:

There’s technique (prime has a particular way of getting off the line), and there’s a lot of small nuances involved as well. At least I have appreciation of that, anyways.

Now the folks that post on behalf of APR, really needs to know how to communicate better or think about what’s being posted…