Custom intake for V10

A6 All/ S6 All
#21

Do you really expect us to take you seriously after that?

You joined this site, with absolutely no introduction. We don’t know what you own, if you even own an Audi. You started a thread that really meant nothing, yet guys tried to help answer your questions.

12 posts later you are now demanding respect and you’re bent out of shape because someone told someone to literally NOT WASTE their money.

If getting you feelings hurt on a car forum on the internet really drives you in a different direction, you weren’t serious about your decision in the first place.

You’re basically making an assumption about a whole forum filled with a shit ton of great info and members, because you were offended over one guys response to another guys question. If he didn’t want opinions from members, then he shouldn’t have made a post in a DISCUSSION FORUM about his car and it’s mod path.

I honestly beg you to take a step back and look how foolish this is…Sakimano has saved members tens of thousands of dollars by warning them of shit products and scamming vendors for years now. The problem is he is blunt, but honest and making a big show out of how upset you are…is gonna be like bleeding in a circle of sharks.

#22

yeah after I re-read some of the post I realized his intent he is about a subtle as a bulldozer… he did tell the guy to check the other posts related to what he was talking about. Ill admit I over reacted I felt his reply on my post was unnecessary then I saw more on another I jumped to conclusions and just assumed the worst. My bad hey I am new here what can I say.

#23

So yes, I expect you to take me seriously and stop flaming up this guys thread…

#24

I also made some comments about cutting the hood, because a few months ago we had a guy with a 2014 S4 hack a hole in his hood to go faster.

Do you know what we told him?

Do you know what he did?

DO you know how much faster he went?..I’ll answer this…NOT ANY FASTER

Now he has a stupid fucking hole with chicken wire in the hood of his 2014 S4!!!
-He also has $3000 headers that don’t add anymore power and has been through multiple tunes because he won’t listen to any of our advice.

#25

Lol there sure is a lot of drama going on in here! The S6 (at least c6) will never be a fast car. 12 second 1/4 mile isn’t fast but it’s fun enough to speed around in traffic on the way to work. So much “knowledge” flying around here but I haven’t seen any results only speculation. Who has the fastest s6 here with proof?

#26

I wouldn’t say a 12 second quarter for a 4400 pound sedan is slow. That is plenty fast enough for me, if we can get a 12 second run (no one has, as of yet).

Sure, there is always faster, but a 12 second car is beating the vast majority of vehicles on the road today. So most people would consider a 12 second car fast. But from what I can tell, the real strength of the v10 S6 is going to be the massive torque at low rpm.

According to the AudiRevolution 1/4 mile list, my stock S6 is still at the top, since that’s the only v10 S6 in there :wink:

Have you run the 1/4 yet? What’s taking you so long ?? LOL

#27

Nope no 1/4 but went to northstar 1/8 mile last Thursday and ran what would convert to a mid 12 second quarter (8.10 @85 I think) so I’m happy. Car is fun but not fast. The tune is a huuuuge part of the restriction on the c6 s6. Why all these Audi “brainiacs” haven’t tapped into the brain of this car is beyond me. The simple fact of more air in more air out, isn’t rocket science no matter how much BS you guys sprinkle on it. I hear a bunch of great things about JHM products hopefully they will come out with something in the next year or so for the S6! Until then I’ll stick with the basics and the little that I know about cars compared to you Audi master techs! I’ll post my slip up here for proof of “fast” time and give you guys something to shoot for LOL.

#28

LOL, nice results but like you said, no speculation. Go out and run the 1/4 and then provide the timeslip.

How much BS we sprinkle on it? Really? No one said it was rocket science. In fact, everyone keeps saying the opposite. The formula is simple. If you have a better one, please share it with us, so we can learn from you.

Good to hear you got all the Audi master Techs beat. Now, show some proof of your mid-12 1/4 run so we can add it to the database. Why do I get the feeling we are never going to see the proof LOL

#29

dude you’re so dramatic.

for one…

you don’t even own a fucking S6 to get upset about. So there’s that.

for two, I’m trying to help this pat dude . He’s getting hosed by some dummies who think every fucking car needs an open intake. Should I let him get hosed? Or should I say, rather politely as I think I did…‘save your money’

He got upset because, as I followed up, his mind was made up…he didn’t want to know if he should do it. He was doing it. HE wanted people to tell him ‘yeah dude! way to trailblaze!’

So, if you’d rather I be sweet and nice and lie to save some egos, you’re going to be disappointed. I frankly don’t give a flying fuck about someone’s soft skin if they’re doing something dumb…I’m going to advise them appropriately, but more importantly, ensure that the written record shows this idea is a bad one, so that the 400 guys who come along to this thread over the next 6 years from google searching get the message. Hot air intakes on NA Audis with already excellent airbox designs…make no sense.

They might make sense on some Hondas, where they benefit from the noise. They might make sense on some supercharged cars where the stock intake is limiting the car (see all 3.0T petrol Audis). But they make absolutely ZERO sense on the 4.2 MPI, 4.2 FSI and 5.2 FSI cars, for reasons some of you don’t understand.

#30

8.10 @ 85 translates to 12.55 @ 108

That is a weird as hell quarter mile time for an S6. Can’t wait to see the slip…because I don’t think that sounds right. Maybe 8.25@85 or 8.1 @ 87.5…but not 8.1 @ 85 unless something’s funky with teh track.

#31

OK, I’ll add my 2c :slight_smile:

I have been a mod/admin on a couple of car boards, going back more than 15 years. So I’m not a newbie, but that’s the attitude I took when I arrived.

I could tell immediately upon getting here that this place has got many people with a great depth of knowledge. Not many fluff posts (like this one, sorry!)

How could I tell this? I read through as much of the site as I could! Specifically about the S6 - I quickly learned enough to know (confirm) that the intake is not really a restriction on this car.

I (think) I saw where I could contribute, and that’s what I’ve done.

SO - the issue isn’t the subject of this post, but that’s it clear the member hasn’t taken the time to read and appreciate the knowledge that’s been contributed to this site, and that’s why guys like Saki will respond in this way. I’m sure he has contributed many hours of his life, and, in a way, to disregard all this info is to be slightly insulting!

One last point - an (N/A) engine tune takes full advantage of the physical flow properties of the engine as they exist. Engines tunes can’t increase the maximum flow of a given system. There is a reason why every engine tune for this car makes 10kw. There’s much more involved to make more power than that - simple in principle, more complicated in practise. Stay tuned to v8a6’s post!

-P

#32

true, no proof on the S6. Just proof on every other naturally aspirated Audi S/RS car in the last 10 years. And the drivers of the fastest 1/4 mile times for almost every stage of modification for every one of those cars are members on this forum. Aw shucks maybe we’re all just lucky right?

Maybe ‘it’s different this time’ with the S6, and you just need an open element intake. It’s just “more air in, more air out”, right?

That is unless your car is sensitive to IAT, and pulls ignition timing advance dramatically once the open element intake starts sucking in hot engine bay air because it’s positioned adjacent to a radiator. And then you’re down 10 degrees of timing, and your car is slower than stock even though you have a groovy tune and exhaust and intake.

And that’s unless your car has a sealed airbox or two that is already a great design. Do either of those things apply to the S6? Yes? Awww.

More air in more air out doesn’t really mean shit for acceleration…especially if the ‘more air’ is hot, not-dense, oxygen-sparse air.

#33

The answer is…no one has a fast S6, but soon someone will.

#34

True. The idea is to dispell the parts that aren’t needed and don’t work. Why just openly let someone throw there money away because there excitement of a idea. Better to step in help and get guys to save money for the right parts. There was an RS4 thread where a guy had a 2000$ group m intake he was told it made more power them the stock air box. For 2000$ it had better make more power. After actually going back and fourth with him he actually tested the intake. Turns out the stock air box was just as good if not better. 2000$ will buy you a nice amount of parts that actually work. And 350$ is a good amount of money to have sitting ready when the S6 has real proven parts. Looks like JHM has a few parts in the pipeline.

#35

hold on there sakimano, my mind wasnt made up, thats something i came across on facebook, and messaged the guy about how much it would be, I havent even considered buying that. if i see something about the s6 i try to post up so you guys see what people are doing. ::slight_smile: back to work. ill just stick with the k&n drop in filters that came on the car from the previous owner.

#36

Give those k&n a good cleaning they work really well. So far a few guys doing the S6 performance stuff have seen good results.

#37

I used to use K&N with my Subaru built motors. On one of my teardowns, there was evidence of intake related scoring. I switched back to paper filters right there. Not definitive proof, but one man’s experience.

There are many ways to increase airflow through the engine. Decreasing the filtration efficiency is not one that I will be using.

#38

What does that even mean? (intake related scoring)

The only problem I see with oiled filters like the K&N is improper cleaning and lubrication. Believe it or not there is a certain method of cleaning them, a certain way your suppose to rinse them. Then you are suppose to let them completely dry and oil them properly (NOT OVER OIL THEM) then let them dry again before reinstalling.

TO be honest it’s not something you can do in 30 minutes and then jump back in the car and drive around. I’ve always done it later in the evening, oiled the filter before bed and then popped it back in, in the AM.

Sure some people say, “it’s so simple, show can someone screw that up?” but that is the funny part, people hate following simple directions. This is the reason why they ruin their MAFs and other things related to a simple filter cleaning.

I prefer oil less reusable filters. I doubt there is much benefit, but I run an AFE filter.

#39

Erosion on the cylinder wall next to the intake valves.

#40

Doesn’t add up. Run in the 1/4 and I bet you won’t get close to mid 12’s

You’re purporting to have a mid 12 second S6 yet you don’t have any proof. No wonder “mid 12s” doesn’t feel very fast; you’re not running that.

Sure, it’s not scary fast but it’s pretty quick for a 2+ ton luxury car.