The tech who did those welds got a slap?
I would have assumed that’s against the law…beating someone who is handicapped.
Maybe not in new Jersey?
In all seriousness, how the fuck did you just call the person who did those welds a tech? A d how the fuck did we both just call those welds? I could literally stand under a car on a lift and spit a better weld after eating a peanut butter sandwich.
Every time a Tech rushes a job and does terrible work, instead of taking the time to do it the correct way, you, as the Owner, profits. The Technician who is getting paid by the hour, doesnt. He has no motivation to do a poor job. In fact, in a respectable shop he should be motivated to do excellent work, or lose his job.
Therefore, I don’t buy the excuse that this is the Technician’s fault. When you have several cases of the same type of stories being heard, it tells you that the Owners and Management are directing the Technicians to perform this type of work on cars where it might not be discovered.
You keep blaming the customer for not bringing the car back to correct the terrible work. Why on earth would anyone bring their expensive European automobile back to a shop that performs welds like that, and then covers it up with some exhaust putty??!! Would you take your car to a place that does shit work like that??? You had your chance to do the job right the first time, when the guy paid you big bucks.
No story from you can excuse that weld. Your business is filled with a bunch of scammers. You do a great job on a few Lambos, and then steal from the average guy by doing shitty work, and hope he doesnt notice it. If he does, oh well, bring it back and maybe we will fix it the second time around. Bullshit.
I hope anyone who reads this thread avoids your shop like the plague, and passes the word on to all others to do the same.
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I see what you did there…shame on you!
How sad really… Oh and I guess I shouldn’t be surprised… This is the same shop kevkev used for all his work, you remember the b8 s4 that had custom headers, special sauce, etc with the work done by elite… Yeah, the one that went 11.5… With a time slip from a Benz that is… They played him up big time until of course saki busted his lie and then they did everything they could to disassociate themselves… Sad really sad…
That tech should have been fired. Do us all a favor and not let this guy think that behavior is okay. A slap is not going to cut it.
Ok lets get something straight, you say you gave me a refund for “ENTIRE JOB”. You gave me a refund for the install of the DP’s only. Not everything else I had done as well (Tune, Alignment and DP install). So lets get the cleared up.
Next, I work in finance. If someone decided to buy stock and I only gave them half the shares they asked for because I was lazy I would lose my license, be fined, and go jail.
You give you tech a slap? really? He literally performed a half ass job and to top it off COVERED IT WITH PASTE TO HIDE IT!!! WTF man. That means he knew he was doing shitty work. I had the exhaust re welded and we didn’t use any paste this time.
Im sure you can understand why I wouldn’t bring the car back. I was pretty fucking pissed. Whats to say if I brought the car back (without looking for myself first) that your tech would have just slapped more paste on there. The only reason I found the job the way it was is because we were rebuilding the back caliper and while it was on the lift, we were just gonna fix the (small leak we thought it was) for convenience. When I saw that I shit a brick.
We are more than capable of making you (the client) pleased had I known about situation. I apologize once again.
http://i.imgur.com/lQai9BC.jpg
If you need anything in the future, don’t hesitate to contact me. I’m sure I can earn your business once again.
That was posted the first time I went to your shop and I was in a bind. You stated before that you only hear negative interviews but that obviously wasn’t the case now is it?
You did help me in that situation. Finding somewhere to hold a car in NY is damn near next to impossible. And just an FYI one of the rubber boots on the UCA was ripped from the installation. I have pics of that too. They weren’t huge but big enough for me to notice when i was doing to some maintenance. Didn’t think it was big enough to bitch about but something I took note of at the time (only about 2 months after install). However, because of you helping me out to begin with, i went back to you a few months later (April) for all of this work and the results speak for themselves.
The fact that you even took the time to lookup his post history is laughable – as this is far more effort than your shop provided for a simple exhaust install. If only you actually cared enough to prevent mistakes rather than ask for forgiveness. Oh well. Your shit won’t be around long if thats the case. Good luck, hope you actually learn something from this…
^^ ya pretty bad form. Just a disingenuous post on his part - “I’m sure I can earn your business once again” lol
If anyone is capable of doing that kind of work and thinking it was acceptable why would someone keep them on as an employee. I think it’s great your stepping up and saying you would fix it and refund money but the biggest issue is how was this ever thought of as acceptable.
If you guys can’t weld or don’t know how then just tell the customer this job and these parts need to be modified past what we can do. I think it’s great that you would try to help even if your not properly equipped or able but this isn’t the first time your techs have said or done things that are simply out of the range of there ability to try and help. One of your tech guys actually went on the forum getting involved in a on line debate a year ago. The tech tried telling the customer that part of his cylinder heads that has been prone to fail on other audi cylinder heads broke because he had a tune. These kinds of crazy statements and attempts to do or say things outside your range of abilities creates doubts and can discredit your other work.
Wasn’t it Kai himeself who said that? ^^^
I heard that once cars go to Elite, they blow motors… seriously though good memory Saki.
There is a ton of gold in that thread, especially from the idiots.
Kai, you basically blanketed any failure with this comment, even though the failure was mechanical.
[quote]Now…do we feel the tune had something to do with this? Yes
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http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/541328-Quick-question-for-those-with-JHM-Tune?p=8778820&viewfull=1#post8778820
Then on another forum, you mention Elite had a car in with a similar issue, referencing the car above…
That car was one owner, stock tune, seemed babied. What is you conclusion on that? or did JHM blow that motor also?
[quote]Had one over the summer with same issues. Numerous things failed, rocker arms, main bearing etc.
It’s unfortunate. This one had 80k
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http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/audi/322222-rs4-155k-miles-since-2007-engine-died-last-week-thoughts.html#post3979322
It’s comical how many times they told me to get out of the setion because I didn’t own an RS4…haha
Hold on guys! Before you bash Kai any further, please note that Kai is an Engineer!
https://www.linkedin.com/in/kayihankiryaman
Which now totally explains the weld. They don’t teach welding in University. LOL
Regarding the Tech, the reason the story doesnt make sense (he received a ‘slap’) is because it is bullshit. The quality of the work at the shop is dictated from the top down. Managment didnt say shit to the Tech, because they told him to rush the job in the first place.
If it was honestly the Tech’s fault he would have been fired on the spot for this type of behavior, considering the damage it is doing to the reputation of the business.
Dont buy the bullshit from Kai. All you need to know is in the pic below
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g241/ifryrice/Mobile%20Uploads/20140429_203612.jpg
Then on another forum, you mention Elite had a car in with a similar issue, referencing the car above…
That car was one owner, stock tune, seemed babied. What is you conclusion on that? or did JHM blow that motor also?
[quote]Had one over the summer with same issues. Numerous things failed, rocker arms, main bearing etc.
It’s unfortunate. This one had 80k
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http://www.6speedonline.com/forums/audi/322222-rs4-155k-miles-since-2007-engine-died-last-week-thoughts.html#post3979322
It’s comical how many times they told me to get out of the setion because I didn’t own an RS4…haha
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Wow, let me get this straight. So Elite has a car with a JHM tune on it…that loses the motor (after 6 years and a couple years also tuned by Unitragic)…and Kai blames the JHM tune even though it was a mechanical failure. Even though there are literally 100+ other tuned RS4s that had no such problem…intimating that perhaps this was a custom JHM tune with the box for ‘catastrophic failure thanks to cam problems’ checked.
Then another RS4 with a STOCK tune on it…has the same problem causing a similar engine failure…and Kai posts about it, but doesn’t go back and apologize for blaming the JHM tune previously on the other car? I even asked Kai in that thread about the New York car.
Pretty lame Kai. Let’s hear the rationale behind that?
Wow, they let anyone become an engineer nowadays for sure.
I don’t think any mechanical engineer would have blamed the tune so directly…unless of course he designed the motor…but that isn’t the case here.
I can’t stop looking at that weld…or gob of shit(doesn’t even deserve to be called a weld), to be honest anyone with just a tiny bit of competence could weld better than that…I’ve seen beginners do better on their first try. Did a “tech” really do that or did you guys have to grab someone off the street to meet your timeline.
I’d have a hard time believeing that same person would even be able to use a wrench or a screw driver…or fuck even a hammer. Are these the same “techs” who do Carbon cleanings and other more detailed work. This is the reason why I wrench and rearely let any shop, no matter how shiny their floors are or how many Lambos they have in the lot, touch my cars.
Here are pics of the tear in the boot on my 034 UCA. I took a pic with the date. If you look at the when Kai posted my appreciation thread and look at the date, its just a bit over 2 months after. I dont see how normal wear and tear would do this. Again nothing major for me to post like the weld, but i definitely took notice.
Im assuming there is a possibility of me having to rebuild them earlier now. I dont know for sure. Excuse the dirt and crap. Last winter was pretty bad.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g241/ifryrice/Screenshot_2014-09-22-15-20-52.png
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g241/ifryrice/Mobile%20Uploads/20140111_174806_1.jpg
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http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g241/ifryrice/Mobile%20Uploads/20140111_175454_1.jpg
First post on here…and I stumble upon this… :-\ I don’t understand how you could bash a shop for one job screw up if the guy refunded you…what tech did was inexcusable I won’t deny that…but the guy states that he refunded you… I thought this forum was for posting and sharing for AUDI owners…not for bashing specific shops…not very tasteful… …sad part is we actually sign a waiver on not making hateful posts before we get approved to registered on here. Next time use yelp for when you decide to bad mouth certain places… Hope to not see any more of these on here…total turn off.
It’s not a hateful post. He’s stating facts of something that happened to him with pictures. If a shop screwed up on my car that badly I wouldn’t take my car back to them no matter what the incentive, and I would most definitely post about it online to warn others.
Exactly my point as to why he should have used yelp and not here. If my car got fucked and I didn’t get a refund I’d be just as crazy…but he got a refund…it’s just not tasteful…That’s my point… “screwing up one car at a time” ??? come on now…
