unless he got a deal from epl, then took advantage of the apr power play for a tad more for having an existing tune. seems like he was pretty set on epl
Interesting… I wonder if he will take advantage of the 30 day APR deal and go back to EPL… He is logging, dynoing, and hitting the strip in pretty short order… Tony tagging along?
His logs with the EPL tune are interesting… Blah timing but incredibly low IAT’s and still timing pull… Nice MAF values and good boost with little to no bypass…
Either way I hope he runs a good time tonight…
It was also on Race fuel and the 100 octane program.
Wouldn’t he want tons of timing advance with the meth + e85? So he pretty much never got the performance from epl with the custom meth tune is how I read that. Probably not even close. Curious if he’ll make that claim or just continue to let everyone else connect the dots. Seems like no one else from az ever followed him down the epl path, including the flash at home demigod swank.
I’m sure he’ll run a pretty strong time with the 104 tune and his setup. Jeff has already shown how well it can work (although only a gallon or two of e85, right?).
Correct, 14 gallons 100 octane, 2 gallons e85.
Looks like Saxon went 11.9@117 on APR tune.
It’s in his sig now.
Very good.
Time to come eat his shit sandwich on AR
Looks like Saxon went 11.9@117 on APR tune.
It’s in his sig now.
Very good.
I’d have a lot more respect for the guy if he came here and took it like a man.
Looks like Saxon went 11.9@117 on APR tune.
It’s in his sig now.
Very good.
Pretty decent.
What was DA?
What mods does he have (besides the ricer bodykit)?
What track?
He posted the slip on facebook, he was at Cecil… Nice time either way… Good for him!
60 - 1.729
330 - 5.015
1/8 - 7.713
mph - 91.09
1000 - 10.012
1/4 - 11.943
mph - 117.07
Thanks Ron,
Any idea what DA was?
Looks like I will get lucky with possible 45-50 degree temps this Saturday.
He posted the slip on facebook, he was at Cecil… Nice time either way… Good for him!
60 - 1.729
330 - 5.015
1/8 - 7.713
mph - 91.09
1000 - 10.012
1/4 - 11.943
mph - 117.07
his 1/8 trap is too low for 117 1/4 trap. Wonder why that is. Weird split.
Jeff, No problem man… He said it was around 300… Dragtimes doesn’t have a reading for some reason? Should be cool here this Sat. as well, but rain is in the forecast…
Saki, Yeah I’m usually in the 93.xx range… Although I just looked at my 1/8 mph was low 92 when I went 119.46… I do have a bunch of high 116.xx’s with 91 1/8 mph’s…
How sad of an individual is Saxon. I’ve seen he has logged in below a few times when I’ve been signing into the site. His first string of posts appeared to be all about proving something to the community. When the community tried to help him his reputation dropped and now that he’s got the ability to thank those that were trying to hard to help him. He’s gone silent.
I’ll be making sure to negotiate Rep him every day until this thread dies.
The only involvement I have is that I’m a beta tester for the flashing cable. No discounts our special deals.
If the tune shows things that are unsafe I will gladly point them out, nothing to gain but to help other people out and show that apr and giac aren’t the only ones who can provide a safe powerful tune
I believe we all come here to be educated. It’s apparent to me he didn’t want to be educated. He didn’t even want to help the community. He wanted to try and sell his hopes as facts. When that didn’t work and he could really take the opportunity to share he disappears.
i switched to make my car easier to sell when it comes time, both tunes on 93 octane perform nearly identical
epl was a great tune for 93 octane , however i had an issue with the meth tune not taking. im not sure if its user error or tuner error since all other flashes worked perfectly. i got pissed off and decided to go to apr without even giving Tony the chance to try and help me fix it
i can guarantee any apr user could get the epl flash and not tell the difference except launch control, it is much more aggressive with apr
i already told Ron this , but just so everyone knows that the logs i sent him were APR stage 2 93 octane logs… kind of funny how he talked shit on apr without even knowing it, just shows how judgemental some people are and biased towards their tune of choice.
im happy with the apr tune and have less into it than i originally would have , but i still wish i could do a custom tune to take advantage of the meth and e85
Sigh…
Brian, You sent me the below email with a file attached…
“here is a log of my car from tonight 60* outside fyi, let me know what you think”
You’d yet come out of the closet about your switch to APR from EPL… Sorry, I assumed they were EPL since I didn’t think you’d make a switch after defending them and their “custom” tuning… Not to mention the tune at home feature and Tony being the man…
So I posted…
“To his credit he sent me some logs, which I think are EPL, and I haven’t replied to his email since I’ve been pretty busy… logs were meh… low timing, some retard on runs and such… Will review and share my thought with him when I get the time but I guess it doesn’t matter anymore…”
To which I stand by the logs were no biggie other than the IAT’s being very very good… Not really bashing APR/EPL there… I then noted the IAT’s in my next post after actually spending time looking at the logs…
"Interesting… I wonder if he will take advantage of the 30 day APR deal and go back to EPL… He is logging, dynoing, and hitting the strip in pretty short order… Tony tagging along?
His logs with the EPL tune are interesting… Blah timing but incredibly low IAT’s and still timing pull… Nice MAF values and good boost with little to no bypass…
Either way I hope he runs a good time tonight…"
Again, not really being critical or “talking shit” on anyone… It’s all factual send them to someone else and see what they say? Sorry, I call it like I see it, you can ask APR or do some searching on your own for that… You didn’t tell me if these were 91,93,100,104,”custom”, meth, no meth, etc. Again, not really much shit talking on my part… I’d bet Jeff, Tsivas or Pete would say the same and remember I don’t run 93 as I told you but you must have forgot…
At any rate, glad you came back and as I always have I wish you the best with the car and your times… I have no doubt you’ll improve… As for why you made the switch, lol, that’s just funny… You could have thought of something better as everyone knows that’s BS…
At any rate, glad you came back and as I always have I wish you the best with the car and your times… I have no doubt you’ll improve… As for why you made the switch, lol, that’s just funny… You could have thought of something better as everyone knows that’s BS…
Everyone knows that modified cars have increased resale. ;D
i switched to make my car easier to sell when it comes time
hahaha!!! do you honestly expect anyone on this forum to believe this?
Man up Saxon and stop the bullshit.
The #1 reason you came here was to PUMP EPL! not to do something for the community. You raved about their flash at home and custom tuning from TONY@EPL
What were your issues in the end…
#1 You needed multiple revisions that weren’t even as good as an OTS tune from APR
#2 You had to deal with Tony, got fed up, and said fuck him, I’ll go with APR
#3 Your “flash at home feature”- you either had user error or the tuner didn’t know what the hell he was doing (SWEET) option, just what everyone wants.
#4 The reason you went with EPL was for this “custom” dream you had…how did that work…it DIDN’T
Now just be honest and say it was SHIT, and 99.9% of people should just go with an OTS tune. You were mistaken and didn’t listen to knowledgeable guys like Primetime. Hell, your still a bus length behind him at the strip.
Saying you switched tunes to make the car easier to sell is the biggest crock of shit I’ve ever heard. 90% of potential buyers that you’ll try and sell the car to have no fucking clue what “tune” means and the other 10% who do are going to give you less money because they know the car has been screwed with.
Man up Saxon and stop the bullshit.
The #1 reason you came here was to PUMP EPL! not to do something for the community. You raved about their flash at home and custom tuning from TONY@EPL
What were your issues in the end…
#1 You needed multiple revisions that weren’t even as good as an OTS tune from APR
#2 You had to deal with Tony, got fed up, and said fuck him, I’ll go with APR
#3 Your “flash at home feature”- you either had user error or the tuner didn’t know what the hell he was doing (SWEET) option, just what everyone wants.
#4 The reason you went with EPL was for this “custom” dream you had…how did that work…it DIDN’TNow just be honest and say it was SHIT, and 99.9% of people should just go with an OTS tune. You were mistaken and didn’t listen to knowledgeable guys like Primetime. Hell, your still a bus length behind him at the strip.
Saying you switched tunes to make the car easier to sell is the biggest crock of shit I’ve ever heard. 90% of potential buyers that you’ll try and sell the car to have no fucking clue what “tune” means and the other 10% who do are going to give you less money because they know the car has been screwed with.
$100 says he takes the ECU back to stock when it comes time to sell.