first pic of a blown 3.0TFSI - APR tuned

B8 S4
#41

Right. It’s based on a Q5 and whatever VW calls their Q5. Both Macan engines are V6 turbo so I’m not sure what you’re talking about?

The Panamera Hybrid has a 3.0TFSI and an automatic which is just an S-tronic. But the 991 and the 981 Boxster share the same PDK part number in the 2.7L, 3.4L and 3.8L engine, which is the one I’m talking about.

The Macan is a great car for the money if you’re in the market for a BMW X6M or a X5M. It’s got 800 pounds on the S4 and doesn’t have the same straight line or track performance, but it’s the best SUV on the market for sure.

#42

Vw doesn’t have a q5 lol

#43

I have a full time job just trying to reproduce all of the bullshit on Audi forums. I can’t make my REVO motor blow no matter how hard I try. My lithium battery hasn’t exploded yet. My 25.5" height, 235 width tires haven’t blown out in the braking zone. It’s like everybody Googles stuff and doesn’t do their own homework.

And if this DSG thing is true, Porsche is going to have buy back my Boxster because I was sold something different. Does anybody have the +49 number for the head of Porsche development?

#44

Dumb people’s Internet lives always get murdered here.

#45

Anyone else get the hunch that NO GODS NO MASTERS is that revo dealer form Hawaii who is always hating Apr and bragging about paying cash for modestly priced entry level luxury cars?

#46

hey now

#47

Lol let’s see if I’m right first…

#48

ROFL. No engineer here! Not even remotely in such a field.

#49

Got this quote from my brother-in-law who is an EE- seemed apropos:

Arguing with an engineer is a lot like wrestling in the mud with a pig, after a couple of hours you realize the pig likes it.

#50

hahahaha that’s pretty funny

#51

So you’re going with missed shift? You know that’s pretty uncommon on a road course at an HPDE with an instructor in a street car. They better than anyone know the lap isn’t being timed, it’s not a race, etc. In an S4 you’re only going to bounce back and forth between 3rd and 4th and it’s pretty hard to screw up, given how wide and cleanly the Audi shift pattern is gated.

Do you have any alternate theories besides “the OP is lying or not telling the whole truth?” Like maybe stage 2 with no CPS blows motors?

#52

Evidenced by what? Tons of Stage 2 cars with no CPS. I am one of them.

Either a misshift or a factory defect.

#53

I have virtually zero interest in this particular car. I said early on when the engine blew for ‘no reason’ it was probably a shame money shift.

More importantly, as the thread wore on, I wanted to make sure the forum knew that:

  1. you are clueless about PDK (again)

  2. anyone who thinks this engine blew because the of the tune is a moron with an anti APR agenda (you, NO GODS NO MASTERS aka the hawaiian guy)

#54

You actually think the PDK for the Porsche sports cars motors (2.7L, 3.4L, 3.8L) is the same box as the Audi/VW (2.0T, 2.0TFSI, 3.0TFSI) despite sharing zero parts and being sourced from a different manufacturer? The engine isn’t even on the same side of the car. It’s not even close. It’s like saying an escalator is the same as stairs.

Has anyone blown a stock motor? Has anyone blown a REVO motor since camera phones were invented? I don’t even have an anti-APR agenda. I’m just saying REVO Stage 1+ (software and pulley) doesn’t blow motors for sure and never has, and now we have reason to believe APR does.

But yeah it could be pilot sabotage. There might have been a sniper at the top of turn 10 that put an armor piercing round through his motor. Maybe the car was built on a Monday after Oktoberfest (or some other month long holiday) and Frankel forgot to torque the connecting rod to 108 ft/lb. OR MAYBE APR BLEW THE FUCKING MOTOR.

#55

APR likely has tuned the most 3.0T engines and this is the first time we are seeing a blown engine. The guy either misshifted or a stock component was defective and gave out after being run hard. I’m leaning towards the former.

Give it up. Sell the S4 and go buy another PDK chick car because I’m sick of reading this nonsense.

#56

I’m still calling oil starvation XD

#57

Smart people can infer: don’t take it for 30 minutes of road course abuse unless you buy the CPS. There’s a reason Dinan sells these things as kits for $6k. I know high price tags are a non starter with over half of the VW modding crowd, but they’re cheaper than say a blown engine.

#58

you realize Revo NA HQ is at Summit Point? If we want to start a real conspiracy theory lets start there ::slight_smile:

#59

I drove a APR stg 2 without a CPS on a road course for 4 DE’s, no issues. So your theory doesn’t necessarily hold.

FWIW I have this on there now

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8700/16937242985_ef21bd958f_b.jpg

And I’m pretty sure Dinan sells their kits for 6k so guys like you can brag about how much it costs to “do it right”.

#60

you’re a dummy. Go back and read what I said. What I said was that

  1. PDK isn’t a thing…it’s a german short form for Porsche Double Clutch (and encompasses a few different designs from different origins)

  2. Porsche uses the Audi system on some models, the very same Audi system you shit on, while universally heaping praise on ‘PDK’ (even though you don’t even know what PDK is)

That’s what I’ve said, and the more you talk, the more you show everyone you haven’t a fucking clue what you’re talking about…and that you can’t even read what people are posting and educate yourself.