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I can bring the 18s and 19s to compare. I don’t feel like getting DRs for a single use so I can either use the sticky summer tires with no sidewall or the winters which people often report good results with in the 1/4.
are those 19" wheels light? They sound fancy lol.
No need for DR’s on these cars at least not at our power levels… My 60’s are all on street tires and 19inch BBS CHR’s… I run the Conti DWS tires as they are the lightest I could find…
I think they are around 23 lbs. I’m not sure what the tires weigh. I may compare overall weight of an 18 with winter tire to the 19 with PSS.
^^^would love to see what these cars (AWD Audis) would do with a set of 4 drag radials. Strictly for comparison to other platforms during inter-brand arguments (i.e. vs. M3, N54/N55, C63 etc)
We’re always running streets, while many of the other Germans show up with a set of 2 drag radials on some tiny wheels that weigh 14 lbs each. I wonder if we’re leaving much on the table. My car loves to spin out of the hole but can cut 1.8 60’ times pretty steadily. I have to think I could threaten 1.69 with some drag tires. You guys making more power and torque are likely spinning some too, or dropping tire pressures a bunch to maintain traction. Not sure if that’s hurting you elsewhere on the run.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jwVIdAp3ZE
i.e. this was a 1.86 or something 60’ time and you can hear me spin and then chirp second. None of that helps time.
Good to know. Thanks.
What kind of tire pressure are you guys normally looking for?
I know if you drop too low you actually lose contact area because the tire will collapse inward, but how low can you go?
Exactly! The gains for our pulley and the AWE pulley look very similar. This is to be expected as there’s only so small you can go before the belt slips. A clean pass on the dyno should be nearly identical in terms of gains from the stock pulley to the modified pulley. Some of the differences that will come in to play will be related to how the tuner handle IAT and EGT and compensations for shedding ignition, bypassing boost and dropping lambda. Obviously there are other tweaks some are willing to risk (such as knock sensors) but that’s a whole other subject. We’ve played with IAT/EGT levels quite a bit in the race program and, as always, started out by playing it safe for our street customers as going head first aggressively does have its consequences.
AluFelgen 19x9.5 weigh 27.0lbs, not sure how wide yours are Salmon? I agree, if you can bring both the 19s and 18s that would be ideal
PSS and conti DWS nearly identical in weight for the same size tire. Best two options out there for lightweight tires!
Saki, what makes PSS so bad at the 1/4 track?
I have a spreadsheet with all of my RS4 timeslips pumped in to it, so I can see all my times on my Kumho Excsta or whatever they were called (directional)Toyo Proxes R vs. my Continental Sport Contact 2 vs. my Michelin Pilot Sports. My car has been bone stock all the way through, and has always run the 94 octane Sunoco/Petro Canada fuel, and has always been around the same track weight for each pass.
Conti averaged 1.92
Toyo Proxes R averaged 1.84
Michelin averaged 1.90
This should be pretty apparent to show what I’m referring to. My theory is that the channeled tires are just too much air and not as much contact, and when they’re spinning that contact patch (or lack of it) is the same, whereas the directional tires have a better patch.
Here’s the tread pattern on the tires Pinoy liked…
http://www.dunloptyres.com.au/gdt_supplied_images/DZ101%20200x200%20.jpg
here’s the tread pattern on the ones I thought worked best for me. Correction from above, they were Toyo Proxes R
http://www.gorettigomme.com/public/pneu/images/124604664364901IMG.JPG
Here’s the ones that didn’t work well for me. Conti 2 and Michy PSS. Look at those massive channels…basically air that is not gripping the road when you’re ripping in a straight line. The Michelin’s would win an all around test, but for this discussion, they’re not awesome at launching from a dig.
http://www.pneumaticiroma.it/upload/Prodotto/50/continental_sportcontact3_2.jpg
http://www.michelin.ca/mediabin/Approved/Michelin/Visuals/Digital/tire-pilot-super-sport-hero.png
So tell me Saki, what would you recommend for me? Hitting the strip in 1.5 weeks with Cloch and I can either (a) stay on my VMR with Michelin Pilot PA3 or (b) swap to 19" Peelers with PSS?
I vote for winters! (It’s all I know lol)
Ya I’ll be running my 18" winters.
I’d try the winters then go again and try the summers. My experience is noted above but you should see what your car likes.
Keep an eye on the conditions and take notes.
P. S. We will have our first a6 on the list if you go!
I think Ynnek already ran his car on the original tune…13.x? Ynnek I remember reading through your build/progress thread on AZ when I was considering purchasing an A6, definitely looking forward to the result.
Nope, never officially ran. Ran a 13.1 with G-tech but that was way different in terms of mods and conditions Really hoping I can break into the 12’s a bit.
Well that didn’t take long… Wonder if paper will ever run him?
He is probably right, the APR and GIAC tuned/pullied cars will be very close… Year later in the game… New blower should show some seperation again…
By the way has anyone seen the slip or vid from this 11.8x pass? What time was it at Sac.
http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/531469-Which-Stage-2-Tune-and-Pulley
Not likely that Tyson will ever attempt to run Sarkis. AWE/GIAC is 18 months late to the game and they have failed to impress. Ran a DSG car on the fastest track in the United States during the fastest time of the year and they fell way short.
You would think after all of the hype they have tried to create over the last 12 months of talking they would have done better.
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I don’t see why Tyson wouldn’t run paper… From a dig paper has no chance and not sure how well he drives so it may be a good race from a roll… Yeah, I agree and made the same point about how long it took, but I’ll give them credit for waiting to release until they had everything worked out… With all of the forum noise they could have caved and released a sub optimal product… Agreed, on their time but until I see a slip and no what the DA was I can’t say it was bad… I think they ran on the 9th and the DA was negative part of the day and under 500 all day… I respectfully disagree that Sac. is the fastest track in the country… It’s up there but IMO there are faster… Surprised they didn’t gut the car to put up a better #, especially if they are going to post a vid anyway…
Sac is fast but the fastest track in the states must be PBIR.
Also if I were giac, I would love to race paperboy. As primetime said dsg vs manual in a pressure situation is a big advantage. From a dig. Even bigger.
Bottom line is that the paperboy dyno d 500 whp and Apr Eurocode have a lot more to lose in that race than giac. A loss would be crushing for the headers and would not be good at all for apr.
If giac loses, big deal. They were supposed to lose.
I think paperboy needs to go to Vegas for a weekend and run his car at the Vegas dragstrip with 1fastscam. He will be lucky to run mid twelves.