Certainly is. I find it very interesting that violent crimes have “decrease(d) markedly since 1993”. I wonder how violent crimes are defined for those statistics? How would it compare to the number of crimes in which a gun was used? How many times in crimes where guns are used are those weapons actually fired compared to in previous years?
Like I said, I find this whole issue very complicated.
More interesting news, Wal-Mart and Dick’s sporting goods pull rifles from their shelves in response to the recent CT shooting: http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2012/12/18/walmart-dicks-sporting-goods-pull-guns-from-shelves-in-response-to-ct-massacre/
Yea, Cheaper than Dirt has suspended gun sales and high capacity accessories. Bushmaster major share holder is selling off… Cabellas, Wal-Mart, Dicks, Academy…everyone is playing ultra-cautious in anticipation.
I have to agree with JPO. In the olden days (I’m not talking the 50s here, I’m talking hundreds of years ago and before), death was commonplace. Either from illness or from violence. Human life was not worth nearly as much in people’s minds.
Yes, and while we’re on that topic, let’s not forget that this fascination with gun murders and gun ownership, in the ‘civilized’ world (not the third world), is strictly an American fascination.
People often say ‘America just has a violent history’…but reality is that America has virtually no history (no offense young America…you’re pups in the global scheme of things). And if you really want to compare Germany’s (and Prussia before it, who was constantly at war) history to America’s history, and start to compare violence…well you see what I’m saying. Same goes for Japan.
That fat documenterer, who made Bowling for Columbine, had a theory: American media is constantly filling Americans’ heads with fear. This makes Americans more prone to a fear based violent self-preservation mode. This also backs up Noam Chomsky’s theories.
The mother of the 20 year old kid in Connecticut was a prepper…doomsday prepper. She theorized that the world economy was going to collapse and it would be a free-for-all, so she stockpiled EPIC amounts of ammunition, half a dozen powerful weapons, and apparently, a house full of food. If you’ve seen pics of her house, it’s a fairly massive.
^ I have family doing this very same thing. They are so stubborn and set in their ways so much so that nothing will change their thought process. Its really scary.
I agree with Saki. Law makers (legislators) need to be needed… Fear is great at making them needed. Scary shit sells news… Media gives you scary shit. Law enforcement agencies have a vested financial interest in a public’s perception of the preponderance of violent crime… Crime is horrible I tells ya lock your doors!! Never mind the obvious industry lobbies.
In Canada we get this too but the gun thing is pretty foreign. I literally never think about the need for a gun. Never. The only people I know with guns have a shotgun or rifle that they use to slay the odd duck or a deer.
I took a trip to San Fran one year to meet up with a buddy from school who had moved there. The 1st night I got there we were drinking with some of his friends and his roommate. I jokingly suggested we go shoot some guns, ya!! His roommate says “you want to shoot some guns? I’ve got some guns”. Later we checked out what would best be described as a large cache of guns. True fucking story. The first fucking guy I spoke to had a shit-tonne of guns.
PS we did later drive over to a range in Oakland and blow a few hundreds of dollars on ammo. 
Try and find out where the bury their gold!
As much as I “enjoyed” shooting assault rifles and light machine guns, it got boring pretty quickly. I don’t quite understand those people that keep going back to their local firing ranges and do the same thing over and over again.
Then again, I found skydiving to be boring so it might just be me.
^^ I think it might be you lol. I used to participate in range shooting competitions (as a teenager in the cadets lol). It’s kind of like golf. Empty your mind, focus on the task. Very relaxing and rewarding.
I find golf extremely boring as well lol
Skydiving??? Lol what DO you find exciting? haha
doing cocaine on a private plane with an entire calender year of playboy bunnies
nothing else holds Axel’s attention
Tried cocaine in my early 20s. Never touched it again. Did nothing for me other than annoy the shit out of me once I got home at 10am due to the fact that I couldn’t fall asleep even though I hadn’t slept in 24 hours. Lied there in bed for 6 hours waiting for the effects to wear off so that I could finally get some sleep (now THAT was utterly boring). Plus, it tasted like shit when it dripped down my throat. Seriously don’t know how people get addicted to that crap.
Private plane would be nice but I get bored in small constrained spaces for too long. The playboy bunnies would certainly keep me occupied for a while though lol.
Racing against other cars on a road circuit, riding a CBR900 at over 125mph (now THAT was exciting), sailing and windsurfing in good strong winds, mountain biking in ravines and forests, downhill skiing in the Alps or the Rockies.
Now those things are fun for me lol Unfortunately, I don’t have the money to do those things regularly. I thus find myself often bored.
LOL so saki’s airplane adventure would actually be boring for you ;D
Fair enough, automotive related adrenaline is more my speed as well (no pun intended).
I quite enjoy mtn biking as well… Any paintballers on here?
It’s not really an adrenaline rush. It’s just having fun. I don’t constantly push limits, put myself in needless danger, etc. (although the high speed motorcycle riding was probably the most dangerous thing I’ve done to date, way more dangerous than skydiving or alpine racing or formula 2000 racing).
I paintball as well but only outdoor and get bored after 2 hours 
And saki’s airplane adventure would only bore me once the bunnies were all “used up” (trying to not be too crude here hehe), and I’d obviously skip the cocaine part lol.
Lol, this thread has gone in a weird (but great) direction…
I totally agree with Axel. Road courses, especially on the bike, are so rewarding. When my kids are older, I’ll likely start again (I’ll be 50s I guess, but whatever).
I didn’t consider myself gun guy at all, but I went with a buddy from work to his range a few times recently, it’s VERY addictive (and 2 blocks away from my kid’s school, how strange). I’ll likely sign up there soon, since they just started a no-guests policy. Not sure what I’ll get first, maybe a 9mm handgun of some sort and something else for long-range target shooting (suggestions people???). I can guarantee I’d never be firing shots outside of the range. It just seems purposeless, wrong, and irresponsible to me, sorta like taking an F1 car out on the streets (and just as dangerous).
So you will not ride a motorcycle till your kids are older (I presume so you don’t have an accident that affects your family drastically) … but you will bring handguns into the house while they’re little kids?
Not sure if serious
It’s really interesting how expensive guns are. My uncle sold a bunch of his a while back and could have bought a decent car with the proceeds.
I don’t know what Jspazz’s plans are but I think many gun clubs offer members the option of leaving their guns at the club. In some cases, it’s to avoid having them at home and in other cases, it’s to avoid having to carry the gun back and forth which in some jurisdiction, has legal issues that aren’t always worth trying to overcome. However, I’m not a gun owner expert, nor a gun range/club expert so I’m not 100% sure.
Depends what guns. Like anything vintage is worth lots. But hand guns and rifles start at 400$
Then you get premium products like the popular glauc which is in the 900+ ranges
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