Has PES finally bit the dust? Rumour has it...

Just crosspost what psi-addict mentioned above. He clearly HAS NOT been refunded. He said so himself. He is not ‘waiting’ because of the e-cheque. The e-cheque is a tennis ball and that’s why he’s waiting…to see if Tony will make good on it (which we know he can’t). The customer is just waiting for the investigation period to end so paypal can refund him.

As for the ‘threatening’ PM lol…here’s what I wrote. And I did warn him years ago not to hook up with PES. They’ve always been an empty shell of a company. Unfortunately now spinner has made it his job and reputation. Oh well.

[quote=“sakimano”]PES is indeed bust. Sorry mate. You’re fucking people over selling them supercharger kits that won’t ever exist. If you’ve received any deposits, I wouldn’t spend the money because fraud detectives will soon be looking for it.

Don’t say I didn’t try to warn you.

PES old location is empty…empty for a while now. No business, no parts, no staff, no nothing. Want to see some pictures? I’ll send them over.

They’re moving you and Tony say?

Their new location is empty. No business, no superchargers, no staff…just a rundown, dillapidated abandoned garage in the ghetto and Tony is using it as a mailing address.

Oh…and that customer ? He didn’t get a refund. You made that up, and are going to burn for it my friend.

I will make sure everyone knows on every forum not to trust you or Tony EVER again.
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Oh, I totally agree.

We DO need a private track for acceleration testing and logging. The only problem is I’m sure people wouldn’t believe the results we get from the site, even if it was prepped NHRA or IHRA style, with super accurate equipment and basically as close as possible to the real deal. However, for us, the data would be invaluable. The ability to hit the same spot over and over to compare results would be outstanding.

The refund was not made up, it was issued by Tony the day after I opened the claim. 5 days later it did get declined. I cannot comment whether it’s Tony’s fault or not but paypal will try again before refunding me the initial payment. No reason going over this over and over.

I dont think anyone is saying it was made up. Saki was pointing out that it was most likely a echeck. So while it may appear that a refund is “in progress” the funds still have to clear from another account (aka when you paid him he pulled the money out of his paypal account already otherwise it would have taken an hour for that refund to go through.) and if they dont they will bounce.

He told the forums that you had received a refund.

You hadn’t (and still haven’t).

Overseas they’re saying ‘Oh, he got his refund. That’s it put to bed’. No…no it’s not. He will get a refund in a couple of weeks under paypal fraud protection. Nothing to do with Tony or PES doing the right thing.

Ohh I completely understand that part. The refund was coming out of a bank account not paypal. Either way, they will try again.

Exactly, without a 2 hr drive or whatever it is…and carting all your shit there. Just go outside, and rip through the trees there. Would be awesome. Controlled, perfectly paved, easy-peasy.

Does Heffner have their own track? Or did I imagine that? I am not sure if people dispute their results etc. I know what you mean though…I can imagine a stage 2 GIAC B8 S4 running there and going 12.6 and everyone losing their mind.

Either heffner or Hennessy does, pretty sure its hennessy

hennessey does. It would be really. really. really cool.

Really cool.

What a dichotomy comparing APR and PES - PES and their shell of a hut and APR and getting their own dragstrip.

What would it take to get a track certified? Maybe build it and host some events there? Euro wars or something. Maybe too ambitious lol

I feel really sorry for you. Hopefully all this exposure will help you get your money back. There is no excuse for not giving a speedy refund when Tony already admitted this needed to happen.

This guy still appears to be making progress with his PES kit. I have no idea what the details are though. His posts are extremely vague

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/596768-Teaser

It won’t do anything. If it does it won’t do it for long.

And pes will be tuning it… probably have 50% of their staff working on this.

hehhhhhhhh

you guys should crosspost this thread so nobody gets fooled into paying PES. In fact I’m surprised this thread hasn’t picked up traction on audizoo already.

That guy is advertising for PES. Part of his deal. PES was BANNED as sponsors on audizine for scamming so they have him on there and others elsewhere.

Pretty lame.

I’d cross post but I’m pretty sure they’d ban me for it. Seems like they’re cool with other guys posting AR stuff, though.

Honestly, if anyone is stupid enough to give PES money at this point, that’s on them.

I’m not going to shit all over that guys thread. He’s heard it all already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPAdrE8JJSQ

read the comments

I didn’t see any comments? Assuming that is 540 crank? There is no way they were expecting 640 at the wheels…well maybe they were

No comments on that.