Ynnekdude and I saw the Tesla last time at the track. Think it ran a flat 13 seconds. Pretty crazy. I’m not a fan of the interior, though.
Actually, what was so addictive was the silence during moments of brutal acceleration. Eerie, like you’re in some freakin spaceship. And so much traction it seems, I’m not sure how they do it. Dragtimes did a 12.3 or 12.4, IIRC.
Cloch, I didn’t like the interior much sitting in the Tesla store either, but once on the road it wasn’t that bad. I drove it downtown Miami and drove over some crappy roads, and gunned it whenever I could. The build quality was amazing and lack of creaks, road noise, etc…it was crazy. I drove a W221 S65 there, and when i got back in the AMG I couldn’t believe that it felt rough by comparison to the Tesla.
dragtimes does nothing. They just post videos and results of people who populate their site. People like us. Actually jnaut and his B7 RS4 was ‘featured’ in one of their videos by accident. I believe his 12.2 @ 112.98 pass was vs. a ZR1 and they put it on the dragtimes and roadtestl tv youtube channels and home page. The one they posted on their youtube channel was at PBIR (shocker).
The Model S makes zero sense. It accelerates reasonably well, but is $100,000. There’s no sense in that whatsoever. You could buy an S6 or something for $20,000 less, and never have the S catch up in fuel savings. Plus the Tesla feels like cheap crap. At the end of the day, it’s a startup automajker. Interesting, but they just flat don’t work yet.
Go watch the Top Gear review of the Mercedes SLS electric. Speaking of eerie silence. It was crazy.
Ive never heard anyone, i mean anyone, say the Tesla feels like cheap crap, because it doesn’t. I’m willing to call your bs, you’ve never driven one yourself. Given that you’re 10 km from me, I’m certain, since there aren’t too many here. Don’t worry, I felt the same way before I drove one.
Wrong about dragtimes, Sak. Dragtimes are the people who run the site, bunch of rich fucks and their cronies, and they are local to PBIR and Miami and they indeed did test the Tesla (and run the McLaren, Viper, etc). Yes if you post your video to their site you give them the right to repost, like Jnaut.
Over 80,000 km you will spend $15K in fuel in the S6, at today’s fuel prices. Likely you’ll spend $20-25K in fuel at tomorrow’s rates.
There is so little to break, mechanically. It’s crazy. Think of the issues we have with the B8, given the tuning, Mechatronics, water pump, thermostat. Looking up close at the Tesla, it’s overbuilt as shit. I’m certain the weight could come down closer to 4200 lbs. but the low cg makes the car feel planted as hell and very very light. Anyway, lets move this to GD if you want, ‘Tesla Thread’ if you will. I can’t move threads.
Save the interior, these are all the mechanical and ancillary parts. Wow.
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Jspazz - if you want, I will move these Tesla posts to a general discussion thread. Not war zone material yet lol.
I figure since this thread is SO off-topic anyway, I’ll let you decide.
Sure, lets start it from #21, your post.
“Tesla thread…” In GD?
I don’t plan to take this to war status lol. Hopefully everyone can say what their driving impressions are of the car, I like the opinions of real car guys.
Edit, here’s the dragtimes dude.
http://www.drivesrt.com/news/2013/04/2013-srt-viper-charges-down-the-quarter-mile-at-palm-beach-international-raceway.html
His buddy in the McLaren that ran 10.3 posts in McLaren life. Also the buddy in the GT40. Rich fucks with nice cars, IIRC the guy who owns PBIR lives in the same building as my friend on Singer Island.
That’s because you’re a douchebag. There are 3 or 4 here in Oakville, including the one I got to spend some time with at a local auto collision repair centre. It just felt cheap. I didn’t drive it, nor did I ever say I did. I realise you live in north burlington where a Tesla may be a little more exotic, but spend some time here and you will see they’re quite common.
Not everyone relies on their dad to show them interesting cars Jspazz. Be your own man for once.
Just because you’re wrong about dragtimes and I correctly called you out on the Tesla, don’t lash out, Sak.
I have engaged in many conversations with members here about family, you know those members, you’ve met my brother, still you are disrespectful here on the forum. I have no problems praising my pops in public, he’s a great guy, I can talk about him all day if you want and I hope he lives past 100. I don’t feel less a man when I’m talking about his cars here on the forum. He’s done lots of things for me, I do LOTS for him, but (unfortunately for me) I am financially separate from him, and don’t work for him, as you know already because you asked both me and my brother in person at TMP. Not sure why that’s so interesting to you, but hey, I try not to get in the mind of a psycho, I actually thought you were just being friendly.
Needless to say I couldn’t get my Dad near anything that doesn’t say AMG or Ferrari, I doubt he’s ever noticed a Tesla or even knows what it is. And I’ve pretty much led him or influenced every car purchase he’s done in the last 25-30 years, except the F430.
Since you brought it up that I should spend some time in Oakville, LOL, I have a few separate friends in your cookie-cutter Oakville neighborhood of suburban 35-40’ lots and $600,000 houses. Actually I was in your neighbors pool with our kids a few weeks ago, they are very good friends we’re having down in Florida this fall. It’s a nice new neighborhood, but not my choice, they are smaller houses on smaller lots without any green space around them.
I didn’t see any Teslas…
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I didn’t know that about the dragtimes thing. That was interesting. I didn’t actually read that the first time…just saw you put your foot in your mouth about me not having some close up time with a Tesla. You act like they’re a Veyron. They’re becoming very common here. Again, can’t speak for where you live.
How are you correclty calling me out on BS about the Tesla though? I think that’s a little weird. Did I say I drove it, and it was no good? No. I said it felt cheap. It did feel cheap. Interior looked cheap. Materials looked cheap. Leather felt cheap. Seats looked basic and cheap. Stitching was nice, but the way it was put together did not seem great. The person working on the car said it was pretty awful.
As I said, there are Teslas around here all the time. Maybe you’re just being your usual douchey self, but I’ll tell you what, I’ll post photos of Teslas whenever I see them now just for you since you think they’re such unicorns. As I said earlier, I don’t see any up north where you live, however I see plenty south of the QEW. There’s a red one that parks downtown Oakville every day. There’s a black one driving around near Trafalgar/QEW regularly. There’s another white one I’ve seen a few times, and just yesterday a navy blue one. There’s even a white Tesla roadster that parks in front of a funeral home around the corner.
There is a black one that I have seen in my ‘cookie cutter’ neighbourhood a few times. Not sure where he lives. I am also not sure where you’ll find a $600,000 house here either. Maybe a townhouse. Nice try though bigshot!
Man, you guys go hard at each other…
I sat in a Tesla Model S at a random Cars and Coffee…are they as common as a MKIV Jetta, no…but they also aren’t unicorns.
$600,000… crazy how much people spend on houses
I see more Teslas than I do RS4s, by a factor of 5. Maybe more. In toronto they’re all over the place. Lots of people who like to waste money.
Tesla with Nav, paint, seats, etc = $120,000 here + $15,000 in tax. Pretty crazy. I have a hard time understanding how you walk by an E63 or M5 or of course an S6 with $20,000 cash in the trunk (more like $30,000 really).
for a townhouse, yes.
We’re very close to Toronto by most standards in Oakville. Maybe a 20 minute drive with no traffic. Density drives pricing, unless you live in a ghetto of course.
When I speak to friends in the US about the value they’re able to find in housing it’s shocking. I played golf with someone a month ago who has a $500,000 place in Arkansas on an incredible golf course. They have a 1 acre lot, a custom built very excellent house and it’s in a great area. He said it was kind of expensive. I was thinking to get his landscaping would be half of $500,000 around here. You’d stilll need to buy the house and lot!
Never said they were rare, just said you’ve never drove one and I was right. I just think these are pretty strong opinions on a car you’ve never driven, especially as a response to my driving impressions.
Like I said, you’re all talk, all the time. Drive one and tell me what you think, nobody cares that Saki thought the stitching looked bad.
No, you didn’t “call my BS” say I never drove one . You made it up and didn’t read what I wrote. Let’s go back and remind you. Too much smoking has destroyed your brain.
[quote=sakimano]Plus the Tesla feels like cheap crap. At the end of the day, it’s a startup automajker.
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Hmmm…feels like cheap crap. Startup automaker. Interesting. Any mention of driving feel or dynamics? None.
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[quote=jspazz]I’m willing to call your bs, you’ve never driven one yourself.
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Guess you hallucinated the part where I said I drove one. Try to read the screen.
The car has a cheap feel to it. Not relative to a 1980s Hyundai Pony but for a $100,000+ car in 2013? It’s lacking quality feel. Check the body panels and gaps next time, and have a pull on some of the corners and parts. What I was shown by a body shop was pretty surprising when the guy did the same tests to a 7 year old 5 series right after.
p.s. the car you showed a photo of appears to have the 21" wheels, and I will assume has the tech package (everyone gets it) as well as metallic paint. If it’s a performance model, it’s $103,000 + about $10,000 in options. $130,000 is a stone’s throw away with tax and delivery.
It was the full monty, tech, performance, 85 kWh.
I have an M5 that was already rusting when it was 7 years old. I’ve owned and driven several cars in the price bracket to know what a $100,000 car feels like. There are definitely things that could improve, but no deal breakers. I didn’t like the seats but were fine and supportive and comfortable once on the road. The guts of the car are fucking solid, and you know I’ve wrenched enough old German metal to know what will last 10 years and what will turn to shit. It’s overbuilt, and is free of crap that will rust 10 years down the road. If youre worried about the little things like the paint quality and panel gap don’t ever consider a Ferrari or other exotic. Actually GM and caddy especially is pretty good in this regard, maybe a CTS-V is in your future.
Most importantly the car was smoother and more solid than ANY German car I’ve driven ever, including the finest from Porsche, Mercedes/AMG, BMW. Steering feel was nicer than my M5, which i consider the benchmark in luxury plus feel. It’s funny because Tesla uses the same steering wheel controls as the AMG S65 I drove to the test, but it kicked the ass of the S65 in ride and feel, back-to-back.
Listen, drive one of the many Teslas in your little Oakville neighborhood, then say what you think. Enough with the bench testing.
You blew this up like a douche. Alll I said was it felt cheap. You have tried your best to make it more than that…questioning my integrity…calling me a liar.
Go fuck yourself you dirty little stain.
Not sure where you’re going with this, but I’ll stay classy any avoid the names. You responded to my post to bear, attacking me and talking about my family, when you clearly promised me you are trying to avoid me, in your incessant paranoiac texting to my phone. Ill post it here if you’d like to see it again.
You need mental help, Sak, seriously.
Is that your constant go to when you realise you’re wrong? ‘you need mental help’?.
What’s this about incessant texting? I don’t even know your phone number. I texted you 6 months ago when you were last here, and acting like a dirty little stain.
Here…tell me what part of this is me ‘attacking’ you and making anything personal? Here’s what I wrote. I was wrong about dragtimes ‘testing’ the car. Traditionally the stuff we see there is from roadtest.tv’s youtube channel, and user uploads.
I attacked you in no way, and mentioned nothing about your family. Want to reconsider that? Then you started calling me a liar with your supposed callout about a post I never actually made (something you hallucinated about me talking about driving the Tesla )
[quote=sakimano]dragtimes does nothing. They just post videos and results of people who populate their site. People like us. Actually jnaut and his B7 RS4 was ‘featured’ in one of their videos by accident. I believe his 12.2 @ 112.98 pass was vs. a ZR1 and they put it on the dragtimes and roadtestl tv youtube channels and home page. The one they posted on their youtube channel was at PBIR (shocker).
The Model S makes zero sense. It accelerates reasonably well, but is $100,000. There’s no sense in that whatsoever. You could buy an S6 or something for $20,000 less, and never have the S catch up in fuel savings. Plus the Tesla feels like cheap crap. At the end of the day, it’s a startup automajker. Interesting, but they just flat don’t work yet.
Go watch the Top Gear review of the Mercedes SLS electric. Speaking of eerie silence. It was crazy.
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let’s see who’s all talk. Turn on the bragmeter…actually don’t. It might explode.
You sound like a rapper who just got his first cheque. Only you do it bragging about other people’s stuff like it’s your own. Very strange.
This is from today lol!
[quote=jspazz]the AMG S65 I drove to the test[/
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[quote=jspazz]I’ve owned and driven several cars in the price bracket to know what a $100,000 car feels like.
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[quote=jspazz]I have an M5
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[quote=jspazz]Steering feel was nicer than my M5
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[quote=jspazz]they are very good friends we’re having down in Florida this fall.
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[quote=jspazz]Rich fucks with nice cars, IIRC the guy who owns PBIR lives in the same building as my friend on Singer Island
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