It just doesn't work: Tesla

It really depends, but it’s so little money I don’t know why you continue to quibble about it. Does it matter if it’s $7 a week or $12 a week? These are like fast food prices to move a car 250 miles.

Are you asserting that the Model S battery has a regression in it and is now toxic? The absurdity of your statement is your Audi individually contains more toxic and hazmat materials than every Tesla ever made, about 70,000 of them at last count.

I was hoping we could have a productive discussion but you sound like a talking Buzzfeed landing page. “Could clean energy be bad for the environment?!” “10 reasons electric cars won’t last” “6 Things Elon doesn’t want you to know”

boy you can’t read and write at the same time can you, I said GAS not electric, and I do not know if they did and neither do YOU, facts are not there, and you never assume anything. What is there to discuss? that the tesla is a tax payer funded unreliable piece of shit that isn’t worth the money to the consumer and the taxpayer. Financial Facts, Reliability Facts, and general common sense void your super tesla car as amazing. It’s only amazing that so many stupid people buy it and or believe in it…

It really depends on your definition of reliable. To me, reliability is uptime. Meaning when you want to drive it the car is ready. Spending 10 minutes a week pumping gas isn’t convenient on a 30 minute commute - it’s downtime. Getting an oil change for 2 hours is downtime. Driving to a car dealership and getting a loaner is downtime. None of these things exist with a Tesla. It charges up when you’re not using it. Yeah I know, on that one summer road trip of the year you need to stop for a whole 20 minutes if you feel like driving a hellacious 500 miles in one day. Deal breaker. When it needs service they let you know exactly for what and pick it up from your house. No VAGCOM, no cryptic codes, no nonsense. Just an alert on your smartphone.

When you give the example of “none of this exits” in relation to down time compared to a gas powered car, what do you think the wait for charging the battery is? When they pick the car up and take it away to be serviced is this not down time? Do they leave a loaner? Downtime is any time that you are unable to drive the car when you want or need. To claim the Tesla has none is just dumb, when it requires a 20min downtime charge every 200 miles.

Similar to how you don’t have to wait for your car to cool down when you park it in the garage, you don’t have to wait for your car to recharge. You can do other things. Unless you need to drive it for 5 hours in a row without stopping. Then you’ll be penalized 10 more minutes than gas.

There really isn’t much service unless something goes awry. Again, if someone picks it up from you at your office and returns it a few hours later you’re not having to deal with it. Not even to meet them for the key or tell them where it is. They know where it is and they have a key.

This is a great buy for refurbishing a 10 year old car into a brand new one, worth six figures again. $25k in gas savings and $10k in maintenance savings over 10 years actually puts you ahead.

“Tesla Roadster battery pack replacement will cost $29,000”
http://www.autoblog.com/2015/09/01/tesla-roadster-battery-pack-replacement/

Sorry… You just went from ‘biggest automaker in the world’ and backtracked when you got bitch slapped and laughed at…and now you’re saying biggest market cap?

What the fuck would that even prove? (other than the insatiable thirst stock market participants have for impossibly shit valuations)

You haven’t done your homework. Fuck off and catch up.

why do I wait in the garage for my car to cool down??? I know this sounds strange but it is a CAR things inevitably brake or need service. Does it not have some kind of brakes, axles, bearings, control arms, etc… they do need to be serviced. It only takes 10 min to pump fuel into a car in NJ with their silly full serve only law. It is less than 10 minutes easily. In my S4 I have driven 1000 miles in day, try that with your silly tesla, it will break down or run out of juice no where near a fast charging station. Boutique cars like the tesla are just that maybe pretty and novel, and maybe the latest thing for the hipster but in the real world it doesn’t work. I liked the honda FCX clarity since it worked like a car for people that drive cars.

Well looks like the ‘affordable’ model X will only cost you a clean 132k at launch

http://www.forbes.com/sites/brookecrothers/2015/09/01/tesla-high-end-model-x-signature-series-starts-at-132k-with-240-mile-range/

Good to see the range increasing and the cost diving. Soccer moms and real house wives of Thousand Oaks rejoice!

Now time for west to tell us why the model X is better than the Porsche Mecan Turbo S…oh wait…

tesla fanboyism < porsche fanboyism

I’m worried the comparison will make west’s head explode :o

[quote=“drob23,post:100,topic:7706”]
Actually, that one is simple… It’s because Porshce uses an Audi DSG in the Macan S and Turbo… ;D

[quote=“littleredwagen,post:99,topic:7706”]
We agree on 1 thing. I liked that car so much I bought a Honda Insight 5 door - a nice 2600 pound car with more interior room than a Macan and can hold an 8’ surfboard. Obviously there is no hydrogen infrastructure in the United States and the FCX was way more expensive than they sold it for, which was still 2x the cost of an Insight. Thankfully for Tesla, there is electricity in every man made structure.

I’m actually glad that all of this is being stored in the Internet archive and waybackmachine, because you guys are going to sound like idiots 50 years from now. The notion that spending $10 a day on carbon fuel for a powerplant you have to drive around with is pretty antiquated. Like 1900’s antiquated.

Regarding the Model X, it’s still going to cost you $80k to get into one with modest options net of incentives. It will be interesting to see what this does to Macan, Cayenne, X5, Q7, Escalade sales. I know a lot of people who bought the Macan because they got tired of waiting for Model X, and as first time Porsche customers they’re really liking the brand.

I still don’t understand the logic of someone who gets irate that a person who pays over $7500 a month in federal income taxes alone would get a 1 time rebate of $7500 on a car purchase. How dare they get their tax money back? For the people who “don’t add good”, that’s only a $300k a year income. That’s first base in California.

But I thought we only had to wait 10 years to see Tesla take over the world? It’s been a week or so, and you’ve increased your estimate five-fold lol.

This is great…now we will all be idiots in 50years, lulz

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ROFLMAO… Source for $300K being 1st base in CA as you call it… $300K is top 5% even in your homeland of CA, which by the way is NOT even the top paying state on average…

You’re such a fucking troll and it’s getting really old seeing you spew a bunch of bullshit with no factual support… Do us all a favor go buy yourself a Tesla and be gone from here…

Totally agree primetime, whatever value is brought from audi roll cage installations and 8 thousand dollar bbk’s is completely negated by hall of fame level trolling in threads like this. How on earth the karma train doesn’t lead off to ban land is beyond me.

^^ ya he certainly has his supporters lurking around on here. every time i think he’s finally gone off the rails, some members reel him back in.

I give him a karma bump every now and then when he posts a good video or an insightful comment. Then it’s like he forgets to take his pills and it all goes to shit.

I have as well, but lately it’s been back to AZ-type west haha

Agreed… I even originally put before erasing a comment about how he can be helpful especially with the road race guys but goes off the deep end more often than not… It’s just getting old and it’s one thing to have an opinion but when you try to twist facts or make them up that’s just not good… Then when proven wrong he ignores it and posts something totally different…