Elon’s attitude with the rockets is “let’s try again in 3 weeks, I’m sure it will blow up for a different reason.” Hilarious, except last time he lost a $200 million satellite that was going to provide Internet to half of Africa. It’s not like they can just make another one. Set back until next decade.
Except Elon has human customers in the cars, and he wants to put astronauts in those rockets in a couple of years. He’s nuts.
Mobileye says Tesla is not using radar in a safe way.
Unsure if this has already been posted. Seems like another Tesla autopilot death, in China. Occurred in January.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/another-person-reportedly-died-due-164546140.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rsIek9AFug&feature=youtu.be&t=4m15s
What is this guy smoking? This is even a bit “out there” for Silicon Valley.
https://medium.com/@johnzimmer/the-third-transportation-revolution-27860f05fa91#.4ptp8vfd6
I read a statistic that claimed one in ten americans is somehow employed due to the automotive industry (either directly or indirectly).
If the automotive industry were to drastically shrink (which I guess is plausible), many of those jobs will need to be replaced with new jobs.
Not a single premise in that article is plausible. It confounds every technical development in apps, sharing and autonomous into one huge big bang that will never come.
If car sharing were so practical, ZipCar and CityCarShare others would be bigger than general motors already. Autonomous is completely orthogonal to whether or not we need to share cars. I don’t share my car because I’m not a slob and I like to keep it clean (and washed). If I want to ride something filthy I hop on the BART and wallow in trash. Minor detail but consumer psychology is weird like that. It’s why I can’t “share” a half eaten Whopper from BK with a smartphone app, even though I’m throwing away $2.50.
Idle cars aren’t a problem. They aren’t computer servers. When you drive a car 150,000 miles it’s trash. It doesn’t matter if you do that in 3 years of ride share driving, or 15 years of occasional use.
An autonomous car still needs a parking spot, or else it will just be clogging the roads. On off peak hours they have to go somewhere closeby and sleep. I don’t know how one fuels an autonomous car. Unless they’re also going to invent battery swapping while they’re boiling the ocean.
The trash is fine. That ear piercing noise though…that’s a non-starter for me.
It’s sort of why I don’t like 100% aluminum body cars. The Model S is 100% aluminum and it has a weird resonance that I can only describe as hollow. If Model 3 has a steel safety cell, that would be better.
I really want to drive a 570GT or other McLaren so I can get a sense of what a carbon fiber monocoque is like to drive.
I understood sakimano stating that the BART had an ear piercing scream and why he doesn’t want to use it.
precisely. It makes the TTC subway screech at the curve on the Yonge-Uni line from King to Union sound like an orchestra
That bad??? Wow.
They are just trying to push their business by tricking you into thinking you shouldn’t own a car. the more people who don’t own cars, the more potential customers they have.
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-california-selfdriving-idUSKCN1212W6
From the article:
“The changes also prohibit advertising semi-autonomous systems like enhanced cruise control and lane-assist systems using terms like “autonomous” or “self-driving.” The systems help steer and keep vehicles in lanes but still require a human to remain engaged.”
I wonder if Tesla will have to rename Autopilot. I can’t recall any other assistance feature by any other car maker that could possibly be affected by this.
Well, at least they went to an 8 camera system. Too bad for the 150,000 cars they already sold which will never be self driving.
https://www.tesla.com/videos/full-self-driving-hardware-all-tesla-cars
was on a conference call with a bunch of Tesla shareholders who were quite UNHAPPY with the debt absorption plans for Tesla eating Solarshitbox debt. Pretty funny.
Also, seems ‘free’ charging will only be free for a few Tesla owners, and not 99% of them.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/tesla-to-limit-long-distance-supercharging-for-new-owners-1478531035
The financial case continues to get worse, not that it ever made sense financially.
The few hundred thousand dreamers who put down a $1000 deposit for a $30,000 Tesla that comes with free nationwide charging are in for a surprise when their car prices out to $76,000 with a good battery and leather seats…and they have to pay $15 to charge every time. Funny how that bait and switch game is playing out. Can’t wait.
rarely do cars actually accelerate unintentionally. I reckon that’s driver error.
In the year and a half since this thread started Tesla has grown to a disappointing 76,000 deliveries in 2016.
I don’t know how they’re going to get to 500,000 or 1,000,000
the market cap today is $35 billion dollars
this is the equivalent of a company that makes $1.8 billion a year trading at 20x earnings
to make $1.8 billion a year, they’d need to make about 8% margin on about 500,000 cars a year that they sell for $50,000 each
Tesla won’t see Audi/BMW profitability levels for another 10 or 15 years. So people are buying this stock…for profits that should start rolling in 2027-2032 and forward. It’s really tough to make a case for.
this is a long long long road for any Tesla investor.
The solar roof shingles that look like slate are a cool idea…one of my neighbours has a 5000 square foot house with a full solar roof on 2 sides. It looks heinous. Although paying $100,000 for a Tesla solar roof is tough for anyone to swallow. Like all Tesla products, people think they’re going to ‘save’ money…but they do so by paying 200%-400% of the cost of a similar product…and they then save 2% of that investment/year. Payback periods of 20-50 years don’t work for anyone.
Tesla is expanding their manufacturing facility here in Lathrop, CA. It’s massive
I don’t think investors buy Tesla for profits that it might eventually get
People buy it to sell as soon as the value of the shares will go up a reasonable amount