lol
its tuesday, 11pm, full moon, 50 degrees outside, oh, this is when my auto transmission won’t shift to 4th gear, so I need to use the paddle shifter.
I can’t even with this. I’m switching my vote. It just doesn’t work.
lol
Off the top of my head:
- would a heavy duty electric pickup ever compete with F150?
- an electric pickup cannot tow
- if it could tow, a 180+ kW battery would be needed for a 300 mile range
- what would an electric long haul truck cost? $1,000,000 with a 1000 kW battery?
- he presumptuously states full autopilot needs to be approved by regulators, as if it’s ready
- one does not simply take on every transit union on earth in one lazy blog post and win
- news flash: electric busses already exist
- wtf is he talking about opening the bus door with a mobile phone app
- all of this shit would take until the year 2100. it’s like a century plan
- the whole thing lacks focus, prioritization
- he does not live in reality. the self driving car sharing thing is such an awful idea for so many reasons. I’d like to see that work in a stolen car capital like Newark, NJ
- there is a reason I don’t rent out my car right now and no one else does either, except for a few weirdos in california
- why didn’t he just relate this to Mars also in some convoluted way
It would be near impossible to sell an electric pick-up to people who actually need it for work or to haul and tow shit. There’s a whole lot list of reasons, some of which you’ve listed. The crowd is ultraconservative, people were very skeptical about an all-aluminum body of F-150, and GM even made an ad mocking it. I don’t see them buying an electric pick-up even if magically all the technical issues are solved
“Lifestyle” pick-up could somewhat work, for fuckers that just want to drive a pick-up in the city. Does not have to be a body on frame as well (not as if Tesla can make one with a battery), it can be a unibody. So if the target audience are people who are “country boys and girls who live in the city but are true to their roots, but also care a lot about the environment, and also spiritual” then Tesla will be able to sell them any turd they make
On another hand electric motors make a lot of torque down low, and the power curve is somewhat similar to a six liter turbo diesel, so it would tow alright, just run out of battery after 30 miles
aiming for the stars this time, i see.
A “Tesla Semi”? They are developing electric semi trucks in europe and they claim the battery weight required makes it unpractical so they are creating tucks that work like light-rail and old school electric busses:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b8/Muni-Trolley-bus-Market-street-San-Francisco.jpg
These are the new ones
https://www.sfmta.com/sites/default/files/14%20trolley.jpg
The one I ride is being replaced with these in a few months
https://www.sfmta.com/sites/default/files/projects/2014/LRV%20renderings%20-%20all%20three.jpg
Ragequit my Tesla reservation. I’m out. Maybe they will have it perfect in 6 trillion miles or whatever horseshit excuse Elon gave.
Look at how much trouble VW is in for contributing to asthma. Tesla kills an actual customer with a self driving system that isn’t done yet, and they think they’re going to get a favorable judgement in all law suits and regulator inquiries. Let’s put aside the poor ethics for a moment. They are doing this assuming they will get away with it. I don’t see how you get away with it.
funny, Tesla has been emailing and phoning people who signed up for the “$35,000 model 3” and asking if they want to instead buy a Model S 60 (starting at $70,000)
bait and switch anyone?
funnier still…I went on their website to build a Model S 60 to see what the cost would be
to get one with a sunroof, good seats (the stockers suck and are like sitting on a park bench) , all wheel drive and grey paint, it’s $99,600 Canadian dollars. To find that price though you have to look hard…they report everything net of government rebates ($3,000 here) and gas savings (lol).
So to get the most economical all wheel drive tesla (AWD is necessary on an electric car with tons of torque if you live anywhere it snows or rains a lot) is $100,000. This is what they’re selling to the people who signed up for a $35,000 model 3.
Shell game.
Tesla fires Mobileye as the supplier of cameras. This drives me fucking insane. Now the engineers are going to have two systems to deploy the software to - the old cameras that can’t see white trucks or fence posts, and the new cameras.
It’s basically admitting guilt and stuffing it in a supplier.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/mobileye-ends-partnership-with-tesla-1469544028
where was that interview from? Would be interested in seeing the rest.
thanks
this is funny…the comment about losses
[quote=Audi]Tesla‘s EVs have beaten Audi to the market by long years. How can Audi become more like Tesla? “Definitely not by making losses,” Knirsch says. “Yes, they are agile and fast, and they take risks. But they are not disruptive. They’re becoming more like other car companies now, Silicon Valley people say. We are working with Nvidia to build our systems using real Silicon Valley thinking.”
An example? “We will have Level 3 autonomous driving in the 2017 A8,” he says. “We call it Traffic Jam Pilot. It works up to 60 km/h (37 mph), and there’s no limit to how long you can take your hands off the wheel. That’s Level 3 autonomous driving. Tesla’s system is only Level 2; the driver still needs to pay attention. The A8 can do this without external signals or vehicle-to-vehicle communication or detailed maps. But it will be able to take advantage of swarm intelligence, learning new road layouts or slippery surfaces in real time from other cars.”
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvRkSMCDX3o
“Calling a Tesla a self driving car is like calling a food processor an automated chef”
Let’s break this down. So they ship an autopilot system to customer cars that isn’t fully baked. It kills someone because they use it as “hands off” and the car doesn’t stop them.
Then Tesla ends their relationship with Mobileye, the camera provider. So the engineers rewrite the software to use the forward radar instead of the camera, to decide where the obstacles are. Then they’re going to use the cars to build a database of road hazards and stationary objects. Then they’re going to use machine learning to determine which objects it can ignore. Then they’re going to push those points of interest to the car.
What could go right?
The correct move here is to recall all of the cars and put LIDAR arrays on them. I see the self driving Uber cars in SF all of the time practicing. They have roof racks with a pizza box on the roof that senses stuff. Ugly? For sure, but also distinguishing for a taxi company. Safe? It can plausibly work.
Tesla is acting like this is a failed Apollo mission and they have to write a new program for their partially blinded cars.
https://www.tesla.com/blog/upgrading-autopilot-seeing-world-radar
how do you stop all tesla’s dead in their tracks? since they won’t require camera verification anymore, apparently a radar jammer?
the hackability of these autonomous cars will be interesting, how easy will it be to trick them to slam on their brakes?
It’s all just a bit too much too soon.
Everyone’s in a rush to make the cars drive themselves but it doesn’t seem realistic to have it happen within 6 years of the first couple of licenses for testing which were given out by Nevada to google and audi. Now start up neophyte companies like Tesla and uber have leapfrogged two of the biggest companies on the planet in a short period?
That doesn’t add up. Someone’s rushing things and not listening to the risk police.