I bought FSD today.
My uncle bought a new 2018 S100D that was leftover. $103k sticker, got it for $82k from Tesla.
as Tesla stock crashes after model Y announced ???
I actually think model Y much better looking than X but 2021 delivery is a joke.
Best Model 3 review I’ve seen. No bullsh*t, gets the major facts right. Also teaches the appropriate conclusion. ;D
Clueless comment. Audi isn’t going to have any EV until MY2026. That Tesla will be in customer driveways next year, with a volume of 2000 cars PER DAY in 2021. Faster 0-60 than a Lambo Urus for $60k. Safest SUV ever built. Driveability of Model 3.
Saw it in person in LA last week and it’s kind of the same profile as a BMW X3, but with a lot more interior room because it’s an EV. Should be the Audi SQ5 killer.
The e-tron SUV is a big joke. UK members posting it has a 165 kilometer range. They fucked up.
I prefer Chris Harris’s review as it is most specific to what I look for in cars
More west retardation right there. I wonder what you do for work?
Fact: Tesla stock did crash after the model Y was announced
My comment has nothing to do with Audi.
That tesla is PROJECTED to be in customer’s driveways next 1.5 years not year. When has tesla ever met a deadline? Never. https://www.inverse.com/article/50802-tesla-model-y-price-release-date-and-autopilot-details-for-electric-suv. its 2 years out.
Audi SQ5 killed itself
Great Lakes Dragaway in Union Grove, WI opened yesterday, and I headed out today, despite the cold temps and wind.
Conditions: ~36 degrees and a steady 15 mph headwind, gusting to about 20.
My car’s software was just updated, but I never got the chance to run it before the update. Also, I’m still on my winter tires - Michelin Pilot Alpins in the OEM 235/35/20 size.
Made 10 passes in less than an hour 
SOC for my first run was 92%.
SOC for my last run was 79%
First thing I’ll comment on is that this car would be the ideal bracket racer - SO consistent and easy.
Second thing is that nobody beat me to the timing lights.
I ran next to a wide variety of cars, including multiple Dodge SRTs (no Hellcats - there was one running, but we just were never lined up together), a tuned Pontiac G8 that sounded AWESOME, a BMW 335xi, an E60 M5 AND an F10 M5 and an LS-something last-gen Camaro that turned out to be all bark and not much bite…
I had multiple thumbs-up from spectators and other drivers after many of my runs - I don’t think anybody expected to see 11s out of this car, but that’s what it ran, every pass.
Results:
None of the Dodges were close.
The G8 sounded typically “Murrican V-8 bombastic” and was clearly tuned and running drag radials. All for nought - drubbed him by about 1 second both times. Driver was cool though - after the first run we ended up lined up next to each other in the staging lanes and he rolled his window down and said “That was awesome! I had no idea the Model 3 was so fast! Have you done anything to it” When I replied that it was dead stock and on winter tires, he said - “Wow I might have to go get one of those!” 
The E60 M5s burnouts and runs sounded absolutely epic - the V10 doing its patented wailing thing all the while. Regardless, with RWD and a 6-speed manual, he never stood a chance. (don’t get me wrong - he still ran 12.5xxx, which is fantastic for that car, but he was never close to me)
The F10 M5 driver actually called me out, driving over to where I was parked between runs and shouting out his window: - “Let’s go, Tesla! - I’m running about what you’ve been running, too - should be close!” In typical drag-racing fashion, the run proved that drivers are (mostly) liars. He ran a quicker ET than me, but he left a bit late, meaning I beat him by a bit over a tenth even though he was going 10 mph faster through the lights.
So then - the $64,000 question - Wottdidsherun?!?!
Best was 11.756 @ 113.02 - not the 11.5 or 11.6 I was hoping for, but considering the conditions, not bad at all.
60 ft time on that run was 1.763, with the 1/8th mile at 7.449 @ 93.08 mph.
Looking at the timeslips that have been posted at Dragtimes.com, my 60’ is easily the quickest of those, and I ran quicker than 1.8 60 foot on 8 of the 10 runs, so the power seems to be there. Take away the headwind and I think it might run a high 11.5 to a mid 11.6, IMO.
Overall, I had a great time, and it was good to have multiple positive gestures and comments even at a classic American dragstrip.
Can’t wait to get back there on a warmer day, without the headwind and on my new lighter summer wheels and OEM tires.
Pretty incredible stock I’d say…your only competitor is the RS3/TTRS…no one else has anything close to that performance for that price point!
The nice thing about the RS3/TTRS is that you tune it and it goes 10.5, upgrade turbos and you’re in the 9s.
The tesla is more fixed, cant really upgrade the car without upgrading the entire battery pack.
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And that right there is one of the main reasons I bought this car - nothing else at or near this price new and with a manufacturer’s warranty is as quick.
No tuning options for straight line speed, though the software update I mentioned added something like 25 hp and also extended that advantage almost all the way to the motors’ maximum speeds. Over-the-air update are the bomb!
One last point: 9 of my 10 runs were within 12 hundredths of a second of each other. The “outlier” was only 16 hundredths difference. Incredible consistency, particularly as the SOC went down over time. The car’s instantaneous response and essentially perfect traction control made cutting fantastic lights and getting away cleanly dead simple.
Even when I was concentrating on it, the Audi’s unpredictable delay in launch-control starts and the fact that you had to disable traction control to get the best times meant much more run-to-run variability. I’d often see 3-7 tenths difference due to the above-mentioned factors.
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So do you just toggle it to track mode from chill and turn off one other thing then floor it? Or does the model 3 have to be launched?
I’ve been trying to find the difference in 0-60s between launching tesla’s and stomping the pedal but cant find anything
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The Model 3 has no “Launch” or “Ludicrous” mode - Just “mash and go”. It does have a “Chill” acceleration mode, but I never use that.
Model S P85D, P90D and P100D, plus the Model X P100D feature an optional “Ludicrous” mode that requires pre-conditioning (pre-heating) the battery and warns the driver that it may cause accelerated wear on the drive components. Ludicrous pre-conditioning can take as much as 20 minutes depending on the battery temperature when it’s activated.
There were also “non-P” (Performance) Model S 85/85D 90/90D models that aren’t anywhere near as quick - think mid-high 4s 0-60. Those models have all been discontinued at this point. Now only the 100 models are offered:
https://www.tesla.com/models/design#battery
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Interesting, so it tesla upgraded and sold a ludacris mode for the P3D it would be even faster. I wonder how the P3D compares to P100D if both stomp the medal
Ludicrous mode likely isn’t possible with the Model 3 due to one of the motors being permanent-magnet type. Model S has induction motors on both axles.
Model 3P would have no chance against a Ludicrous P100D. Without Ludicrous (a $20K option), I really don’t know how they’d compare.
that’s the 140k question!
As I understand it. the luda mode is as said dependent on motors but also the size of the battery cables and due to the cost of material the lower end models so to speak don’t have the wire packing of the cables. Its the cables that control to some degree the power.
I tried again to drive a local tesla car… still don’t think tis the future given the other cars ive driven. I still stand well by my statement. I like lots of aspects of them but still too many down sides. ele motors stand to make a helpful part of the future that seems certain. so they are part of the future but not the future.
I see, I have still yet to drive one…with my car still fucked in the shop I may in the market for a new car…leaning toward RS3/TTRS or Jag F-Type R, but I still want to test a P90D, P3D, and maybe a '15 RS5 (curious to see how much JHM does with it)
Another Model 3 Performance owner just ran an 11.58 @ almost 116…
http://dragtimes.com/Tesla-Model-3-Timeslip-30271.html
I gotta get back out there in warmer temps to see if I can match or beat that…
JHM is all in on the RS5 from what it seems. They have already gone 11s on just software and exhaust.
So good! The question is can the RS5 handle more power than the RS4…I would think so / hope so.
Tesla crazy numbers for stock but not tunable.
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Technically true right now, but who really ever knows what Elon has up his sleeve? I mean they just gave Model 3 owners a power boost at no extra charge. Could happen again, too - one never knows.
The Model 3 Performance is already the quickest car for the $$$ with a factory warranty.