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B5 S4/ RS4
#21

I am not sure it’s as simple as turbo vs. NA car. Don’t forget B8 S4s don’t have an NA engine. Neither do the myriad of other car platforms who love quarter mile results as a benchmark.

Hell the B5 S4 world used to love the quartermile. Now those guys have sold their cars, new buyers have purchased them, and an influx of dyno acceptance has seen a slew of shitty options crop up. The dyno as ‘proof’ means anyone can be make cars ‘fast’ (dyno fast) because you can just make the dyno tell your prospective customers whatever you want. The community eating that up turns into people buying SHIT options for the cars from the unproven companies. You then have the companies railing against the quarter mile becuase they know their parts suck. You also have a massive group of people who have paid a boatload of money for these crap parts who rail against the dragstrip after their cars suck. The community is infected now. Many others still in the B5 world listen to the BS by these so called ‘top tuners’ and ‘veteran members’ and it becomes self perpetuating. Noobs grow up spazzing against the quarter mile.

It’s the B5 S4 that is the exception, not forced induction cars vs. NA cars.

#22

I stopped by yesterday to drop off four door cards and they already had the cold air intake and y-pipe installed. Jason was working on the methanol injection at that point and said he’d probably be moving everything around a bit before the final tightening up. I never ended up getting those bi-pipes I ordered (they were lost in the mail) but I already had the APR version pre-tapped for methanol injection anyway - so that’s what we’re using for the time being.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc6/189865_307037232730983_1001707309_n.jpg

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#23

What’s the little pipe/tube coming out of the top/right of the y-pipe just before it splits into two? Jason showed me the stock y-pipe and that piece was pointing toward two o’clock and felt it worked out better that way. I want to ask 034 why they changed it and would like to know what to refer to rather than send them a picture with it circled.

#24

It’s the PCV breather tube.

#25

glad this is getting sorted for you, dont ever take it back to velocity factor IMHO they suck. dont know much about j-naut but atleast he is here and if he fucks up we can all heckle him. you were just a pay check to velocity, they dont give two shits about b5 s4s and with these cars you need a specialist.

#26

The pancake valve sticks out at different angles on the early vs late cars. Early is slanted to 2 o’clock like you’re saying, late models it sticks out directly right, like the pic.

#27

Thanks, guys! I appreciate the information and explanation!

I’m not sure where they are with the methanol but I can tell you they installed my genuine black RS4 door cards a couple of days ago. That alone should have me in the low 11s.

#28

Jason had a bit of a crazy end of the week so he’s still got the fuel pump and, I believe, the methanol injection to do. However, he’s actually at the shop today, on a Sunday. You don’t get that everywhere.

In other news, I believe I have new secondary cats (high flow). I asked him what he thinks about removing them altogether. What do you guys think? I’m in Florida where there are no state inspections.

#29

jealous of the no inspections. as long as you dont mind the smell/sound I would get rid of them.

#30

I concur

#31

I was wrong. There are no cats. Thank goodness. That would just mean more time without my car.

#32

Going to look at some oil leaks… :o

#33

So it appears there’s a couple of very slow leaks. Nothing major but they shouldn’t be there considering the motor was just rebuilt. I’m just going to leave it as it is for now. I know the leaks aren’t going to get any better but unless they get worse fast, I’m not very worried. Let’s see how everything goes for the time being. A bunch of stuff is going to need to be removed to access the motor and who knows if there will be a reason to get in there in the not too distant future anyway.

I should have the car back some time this week.

#34

I have an 044 fuel pump but none of the stuff needed to install it. It looks like I’ll be placing an overnight order with JHM or 034.

#35

Order placed. The fuel pump stuff will arrive first thing in the morning. I chose the extra stupid shipping option. I just bought the whole darn kit with the fuel pump. Lucky for me, Jnaut has somebody who wants one. Either that or I’ll use it for collateral in a local champaign room or jack shack.

#36

Just keep the extra 044 since you will eventually upgrade to a dual 044 setup… especially if you plan to run corn fuel…

http://www.034motorsport.com/oscthumbwm/w/650/h/658/q/95/f/jpg/fltr/wmi|phpThumb/watermarks/034watermark|C|20|0/hash/bbbb2edef660739a6071ab5a4f8a869f/src/images/DualFuelPumpKit3.jpg

#37

Pretty interesting. I was strongly considering E85 when I thought there were more gas stations near me but they’re really aren’t. There’s one and it’s 20 minutes or so away. That will become inconvenient.

#38

The fuel pump is installed. The slave cylinder arrives tomorrow. Other than that, all I’m waiting for is the methanol injection installation and initial tune.

edit: Apparently the APR bi-pipes were NOT tapped for methanol as I had been told they were - so Jason is taking care of that today. I’ll know more about how that went this afternoon.

In regards to the Devil’s Own methanol kit - how do you get it to start spraying at a specific boost level? And what boost level should that be? I’m thinking 10 or 15 pounds. Not that I’m setting it up - I’m just curious how it all works.

#39

So the “build” should be done by Saturday. Hopefully. If not, then maybe Monday. But - my setup is unique and won’t work with an off the shelf tune - so it’s going to take a few days of back and forth with logs and such to get it right. So… I’m thinking I’ll have the car back, tuned very conservatively for the time being, by the end of next week.

From there, if nothing breaks, we can tune the car more aggressively. But first things first…

I’m still curious about how you get the meth to start spraying at a specific boost level. And what boost level should that be… Does anyone have any input on that?

#40

I’m not sure how Devil’s Own does theres but I’m going with Snow Performance since they’re a local company that makes great stuff and they have a controller available for theirs.

http://www.snowperformance.net/stage-3-gasoline-boost-cooler-upgrade.html

not sure if Devil’s Own has something similar.