JBones's Silver Bullet B6 S4

B6/7 S4/RS4
#721

I will soon find out just how not-fun it is. Any tips would be great. I’ll also be replacing my A/C compressor at the same time. It just came in today but I think I will wait until my headers arrive.

[quote=“JimmyBones”]


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The more I see the R-Series Pressure Plates the more I think they should just stop painting them black The yellow showed up when I installed it the first time and it’s plainly obvious if you ever remove the trans again. I think grinding off the makers marks and re-painting it black was a bit much and makes it seem deceiving. (…just a personal opinion), only the idiots care that it was made by somebody else

#722

The R series was manufactured to our specifications after tons and tons of R&D. This specific pressure plate is not available to the public by anyone but JHM (and JHM dealers). If you were to order a JHM R-series today, you will not see any color besides the iconic JHM Black on the pressure plate, along with internal number designations inscribed on them.

#723

[quote=“Jake@JHM,post:722,topic:3608”]
so the new ones don’t have yellow underneath? because mine barely got out of the box and mounted on the car before much of the black had already chipped off. The yellow is also pretty clear in the 5r kit that BadToyz just had removed.

I don’t really think there’s many out there that care it’s manufactured elsewhere. Everybody (unless they’re clueless) is going to buy it from JHM regardless. It’s trying to conceal stuff that rubs off the wrong way. Doesn’t change the fact that you buy what works…the rest isn’t as important.

#724

Depends on the date the kit was ordered. But yes, if you ordered a kit today, and scratched the black off you will only see bare metal underneath. It should be obvious that it is manufactured elsewhere, as we don’t own a pressure plate manufacturing plant (lol). That is why when we develop a product, we work with the best in the industry to manufacture products to our proprietary specifications.

Unfortunately who manufactures products for us really ins’t customers business. We played a huge part in the development, we tested the product to death, we gave it our stamp of approval.

What’s sad is that people think they are getting the same product by going to the “manufacturer” but they are not.

#725

Edit, good points Jake…you beat me to it. It is sad idiots misinform the community though…it’s always the same group of characters too.

The point though is the JHM R series pressure plate is not the same PP that ACT sells on their website for the S4/RS4. Some of use have been trying to explain this to morons for the last year.

ACT is simply the manufacturer, ACT PP does not equal JHM R PP. JHM probably didn’t want the morons to think they were the same part, because they simply aren’t the same so they painted them black. People found out any way and tried to make it an issue and also spread misinformation that ACT also sells the R series PP.

Badtoyz has had that kit for months, before I bought mine. Maybe JHM just made the change to black official. Not to mention they keep stock on hand so they may have had inventory with painted PP to get rid of still.

#726

I will soon find out just how not-fun it is. Any tips would be great. I’ll also be replacing my A/C compressor at the same time. It just came in today but I think I will wait until my headers arrive.

[quote=“JimmyBones,post:704,topic:3608”]


http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll37/Jimmybones777/SAM_0371_zpsntyhvolb.jpg

The more I see the R-Series Pressure Plates the more I think they should just stop painting them black The yellow showed up when I installed it the first time and it’s plainly obvious if you ever remove the trans again. I think grinding off the makers marks and re-painting it black was a bit much and makes it seem deceiving. (…just a personal opinion), only the idiots care that it was made by somebody else

#727

The R series was manufactured to our specifications after tons and tons of R&D. This specific pressure plate is not available to the public by anyone but JHM (and JHM dealers). If you were to order a JHM R-series today, you will not see any color besides the iconic JHM Black on the pressure plate, along with internal number designations inscribed on them.

#728

Mmmmmm, those V1s!!!

Good work Jimmy :+1:t2:

#729

[quote=“Jake@JHM”]
so the new ones don’t have yellow underneath? because mine barely got out of the box and mounted on the car before much of the black had already chipped off. The yellow is also pretty clear in the 5r kit that BadToyz just had removed.

I don’t really think there’s many out there that care it’s manufactured elsewhere. Everybody (unless they’re clueless) is going to buy it from JHM regardless. It’s trying to conceal stuff that rubs off the wrong way. Doesn’t change the fact that you buy what works…the rest isn’t as important.

#730

that will make sense once someone beats 12.70 @ 110 all motor :slight_smile:

#731

Depends on the date the kit was ordered. But yes, if you ordered a kit today, and scratched the black off you will only see bare metal underneath. It should be obvious that it is manufactured elsewhere, as we don’t own a pressure plate manufacturing plant (lol). That is why when we develop a product, we work with the best in the industry to manufacture products to our proprietary specifications.

Unfortunately who manufactures products for us really ins’t customers business. We played a huge part in the development, we tested the product to death, we gave it our stamp of approval.

What’s sad is that people think they are getting the same product by going to the “manufacturer” but they are not.

#732

Take off the front clip, alternator, ac compressor, engine mounts and upper brackets with the engine supported from the top. Then slide in the headers from the transmission side. I would do the driver’s side first because it is a bitch to get around the gear drive unit that sticks out. The passenger’s side should be pretty easy. Good luck!

#733

Edit, good points Jake…you beat me to it. It is sad idiots misinform the community though…it’s always the same group of characters too.

The point though is the JHM R series pressure plate is not the same PP that ACT sells on their website for the S4/RS4. Some of use have been trying to explain this to morons for the last year.

ACT is simply the manufacturer, ACT PP does not equal JHM R PP. JHM probably didn’t want the morons to think they were the same part, because they simply aren’t the same so they painted them black. People found out any way and tried to make it an issue and also spread misinformation that ACT also sells the R series PP.

Badtoyz has had that kit for months, before I bought mine. Maybe JHM just made the change to black official. Not to mention they keep stock on hand so they may have had inventory with painted PP to get rid of still.

#734

Nothing sad about it. It’s fantastic…because I want to see a few of them do this and have problems. That will be penance for listening to the cheapskate fucking whiner crew and not listening to what people who actually know what’s going on told them a year ago.

In fact I’d love to see xalfa, badneighbourhoodRS4 and gibsonl be the first ones to have an ACT PP fail and see their clutch stick to the floor

Something like 2 years ago I was talking to Dan on the phone, and he was all over the place working with someone on the new pressure plate design. It wasn’t like he called up ACT and said ‘hey can we sell your pp and paint it?’. They redeveloped it entirely, brought in other external experts, and came up with something great. ACT doesn’t sell it. JHM sells it. But hey…if someone wants to buy an ACT PP from ACT to save $0 dollars just because they got owned online by customers who bought JHM parts, I’m all for watching them burn their cars to the ground (figuratively).

#735

BC, just pull the motor and tranny as one unit with a nice hoist, bolt on the headers and slide it back in. You will cuss less and waste less time trying to work in limited space. Completely pulling the motor isn’t really to bad.

#736

I did a bunch more work on my S4. Fair warning this will be a big update.

Put the camshaft bars in.

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Took the mechanical camshaft adjusters and most of the timing components off the back of the engine.

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Took the cylinder heads off.

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This is the rear of the engine with the cylinder heads off. The block looks rather small with everything taken off.

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The stock cylinder heads look like this when they came off the car. Still have the camshafts and rocker arms installed.

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I got some JHM rebuilt cylinder heads to replace my stock cylinder heads because my valve stem seals were leaking. So not only to do I get some maintenance done but I will get slightly more power out of this too and I am another step closer to a built engine. The JHM rebuilt heads reuse the original rocker arms and camshafts so I had to swap them over.

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While I had the cylinder heads off I took the crank pin out to look at the cylinder walls to check for scoring. This is cylinder 1:

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Cylinder 2:

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Cylinder 3:

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Cylinder 4:

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Cylinder 5:

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Cylinder 6:

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Cylinder 7:

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Cylinder 8:

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#737

Put the new head gaskets on.

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Swapped everything over to the new cylinder heads and installed them. This the view from the front.

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This is the view of the rear of the engine.

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I took my mechanical camshaft adjusters apart to rebuild them with the JHM rebuild kits.

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Comparison of the old backing plate and the JHM rebuild piece.

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This is the back of the backing plates.

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So I installed all the new timing chain guides, tensioners, exhaust camshaft sprockets and bearings, and rebuilt mechanical camshaft adjusters. Along with reinstalled the electrical camshaft adjusters and other parts. Also replaced all the needed bolts, gaskets, and spacers. Then I put in the special tool trim wedges to put tension on the chains. Next I tightened the big bolts that go through the camshaft adjusters and exhaust camshaft sprockets. Just to double check the base timing we took the crank pin and camshaft bars out then spun the engine over twice to make sure that everything lined up and it lined up the very first time. Yay!

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Next I put the timing covers back on with new gaskets and silicone RTV sealant. Still need to install the rear main seal but that is a minor issue.

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#738

In addition to the engine work, I took the transmission apart to reinstall my stock sixth gear set. I had installed a TDI sixth gear with a different gear ratio to get better gas mileage but I found that I need the stock sixth gear for certain situations.

This is the transmission all apart.

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In this picture, you guys can see the 1st, 2nd, and Reverse gears along with the splash plate and shift forks.

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This is the center differential. I have the JHM 4:1 center diff.

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Here is the input shaft and the hallow shaft that the sixth gear is on. The loose big gear in the box goes on the input shaft and the loose small gear goes on the hallow shaft.

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After everything was swapped over on the transmission shafts I put the two shafts back into the transmission.

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Put the rest of the transmission guts back in expect for a few shift forks.

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Got the rest of the transmission guts installed and reinstalled the big cover over the back of the transmission with fresh RTV.

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#739

these pics make me sick when I think about putting the car back together (easy for jimmy…life ending for me lol).

Insanely complex these things we call cars.

#740

The biggest issue that most people have is keeping everything organized. If you are diligent about keeping everything organized then it is a lot easier to take stuff apart and put it back together. You can see in most of my pictures that there are random bolts and screws sticking out of certain things. That is because that is where those bolts go so that I don’t misplace them somewhere. That is one of the best tips that I ever got from someone.

EDIT: IMO, the hardest part of these big jobs is ordering all the stupid bolts, gaskets, spacers, and other shit. Then torqueing everything properly in the correct sequence and to the correct amount takes absolutely forever but it is better to do it right the first time then have to take everything back apart to do it again.

But yes these things we call cars are incredibly complex and there are so many pieces that it can be overwhelming to the vast majority of people.