Who knows what’s up with Jconz, silly rabbitt, itguy, etc.
Well when you post pretty dyno sheets that quite honestly show some pretty killer numbers most of the folks on vendorzine will eat it up and won’t ask for any other support… Thus the reason they try to squash any 1/4 mile et/trap speed thoughts with BS excuses… Again, it’s not like they could manipulate their dyno numbers, right? Would love to run one of their DSG “tuned” cars, I’m sure I’d get killed…
And it’s posts like this that ooze shadiness:
[QUOTE=SoloMotorsports;10442379]Now that we have a shop B8 s4 we will definitely get out to the track.
Lately we’ve been a bit busy with our customer cars so time for the track is limited.
We did make it out to the wannagofast half mile event in Ocala Florida last weekend. We were there mainly to run our B5 s4 race/street car (3.0L Gtx 2867’s)… Unfortunately we destroyed the CM 850 twin disk clutch launching on one of the first 120 octane revisions. We will have some track days coming up later in the year but we have to take care of business before we can enjoy the track.
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First, impress the forum that you actually own a B8 (that’s really not saying much, though. Only proves they’ve been testing on customers’ cars all these years). Then, when pressed with the obvious question about 1/4 mile data, dish out the excuse train (we’re too busy lol). Finally, distract everyone with some irrelevant story about your old and beaten up B5. Guess that strategy works if your audience is a bunch of suckers (which is what jconz is counting on).
Btw - they have the opportunity to attend a half mile event . . . yet they bring the B5 instead of the B8??? That makes no sense - would have been a great opportunity for them to take some promo vids showing how awesome their B8 software is running. But then again, suckers . . .
I figured it would only get better…
Sure we should just trust these dynos since they are so much more accurate than a trap speed or dsg pass… It’s not like you are the owner or someone who would benefit from these inflated numbers, oh wait that’s right he is the owner posting under a average joe screen name… Where’s Toni enforcing vendor rules when we need him? lol Good for blackbenzz to correct him…
How many times have they changed the name of their company? Is jfonz still in cahoots with itguy? Hard to believe anyone takes these guys seriously.
Who knows what’s up with Jconz, silly rabbitt, itguy, etc.
Well when you post pretty dyno sheets that quite honestly show some pretty killer numbers most of the folks on vendorzine will eat it up and won’t ask for any other support… Thus the reason they try to squash any 1/4 mile et/trap speed thoughts with BS excuses… Again, it’s not like they could manipulate their dyno numbers, right? Would love to run one of their DSG “tuned” cars, I’m sure I’d get killed…
And it’s posts like this that ooze shadiness:
[QUOTE=SoloMotorsports;10442379]Now that we have a shop B8 s4 we will definitely get out to the track.
Lately we’ve been a bit busy with our customer cars so time for the track is limited.
We did make it out to the wannagofast half mile event in Ocala Florida last weekend. We were there mainly to run our B5 s4 race/street car (3.0L Gtx 2867’s)… Unfortunately we destroyed the CM 850 twin disk clutch launching on one of the first 120 octane revisions. We will have some track days coming up later in the year but we have to take care of business before we can enjoy the track.
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First, impress the forum that you actually own a B8 (that’s really not saying much, though. Only proves they’ve been testing on customers’ cars all these years). Then, when pressed with the obvious question about 1/4 mile data, dish out the excuse train (we’re too busy lol). Finally, distract everyone with some irrelevant story about your old and beaten up B5. Guess that strategy works if your audience is a bunch of suckers (which is what jconz is counting on).
Btw - they have the opportunity to attend a half mile event . . . yet they bring the B5 instead of the B8??? That makes no sense - would have been a great opportunity for them to take some promo vids showing how awesome their B8 software is running. But then again, suckers . . .
i dont think they would let him participate on the 1/2 mile event there were some crazy fast cars there just joking 
But i do agree Terry from JB was using this event to show some beta test cars what they can do during this event great marketing move if you ask me.
Aleks
i dont think they would let him participate on the 1/2 mile event there were some crazy fast cars there just joking But i do agree Terry from JB was using this event to show some beta test cars what they can do during this event great marketing move if you ask me.
Aleks
Well they’ve brought the SoloMS shop car (B5 S4) to this event for the past few years (and won it a few times) so it’s not a big surprise that they brought that car again…
I’m still don’t entirely understand the jfonz->Solo Motorsport connection. Solo is a shop that started in ATL several years ago. This was before a lot of the jfonz fiasco’s were starting. One of the owners/employees has a B5 that’s been built as the shop car and they take it around to a bunch of shows. It’s been around for awhile, supposed to make stupid high dyno #'s…which I wouldn’t think much of were it not for them winning some gofast events. I also heard a couple years back about people getting a Solo Tune for their car which I thought sounded strange (I was surprised people were trusting this new shop with their motors). Now a year or two later jfonz hooks up with them and it’s a team effort?? I don’t know if I should give jfonz more credit now, or Solo less…most likely the latter. I actually commented on that in the SouthEast regional section.
Well they’ve brought the SoloMS shop car (B5 S4) to this event for the past few years (and won it a few times) so it’s not a big surprise that they brought that car again…
I’m still don’t entirely understand the jfonz->Solo Motorsport connection. Solo is a shop that started in ATL several years ago. This was before a lot of the jfonz fiasco’s were starting. One of the owners/employees has a B5 that’s been built as the shop car and they take it around to a bunch of shows. It’s been around for awhile, supposed to make stupid high dyno #'s…which I wouldn’t think much of were it not for them winning some gofast events. I also heard a couple years back about people getting a Solo Tune for their car which I thought sounded strange (I was surprised people were trusting this new shop with their motors). Now a year or two later jfonz hooks up with them and it’s a team effort?? I don’t know if I should give jfonz more credit now, or Solo less…most likely the latter. I actually commented on that in the SouthEast regional section.
Jfonz used solo are one of their dealers when they started up. Solo has always supported jfonz through all the uproars. Solo paired up with josh as their in house exclusive tuner, with the dyno it just made for a good relationship and better business.
They do seem to be fairly odd about going or not going to the 1/4.
Companies are always odd about the 1/4 mile when their shit doesn’t work. There’s a list as long as your arm of companies who have done this. They do it one of 3 ways:
1/ the quarter mile has too many variables…the quartermile is too hard…the quartermile doesn’t show how the car would do in a highway pull
All of this is ridiculous. If you are not a retard and can drive reasonably, we will see what your car can do. If you are a performance car shop, SOMEONE there should be able to drive, so there goes that excuse. And the last one is a joke because you run from 0-130 mph at the strip with a fast car…not sure what they’re referring to.
2/ ‘we are going to go’…‘just busy right now’…‘there aren’t any tracks near us’…‘none of us are 1/4 mile experts’
These are just excuses to make people think they will go when they won’t
3/ ‘we don’t tune for the 1/4 mile’
This one is just asinine. Basically they’re saying they only tune for single gear, in gear dyno pulls…in other words their cars aren’t fast in real world driving, they’re not very good tuners…and they know it.
I think in the case of this Jfonz B8 S4 tuning, all development, testing and “beta” stuff is being done on customer cars. So they don’t have a shop car to do this with (unless I’m mistaken, could be a different situation btwn the B8 and B8.5, don’t know). There is the “twin-charged” car, but who knows what’s the deal with that one.
But in practical terms they’d rather go with the “OMG SO FAST” butt dyno feedback from their customers…than have the customer go with them to the 1/4 mile strip and crush their expectations.
In simple terms, 1/4 mile performance only helps the companies who are selling to customers that actually care about their cars relative performance. It would appear from all the love in these threads that people are more interested in dyno pulls and bragging about how much HP they got for $1200.
If people are willing to buy the tune on this premise, then good for them I guess. The weird thing about their threads is how many random people show up to praise them, or new guys who I’ve never seen seriously consider it. And these guys only have one shop, so this is pretty much an ATL only solution…since the days of yanking your ECM and mailing it seem to be over with on this platform.
well they keep saying they’re 30 whp better than APR. That will mean a comfortable 2.5-3 mph of trap speed, so a 121-22 MPH tvsr1320 B8 S4 should be just around the corner…right?
Jfonz used solo are one of their dealers when they started up. Solo has always supported jfonz through all the uproars. Solo paired up with josh as their in house exclusive tuner, with the dyno it just made for a good relationship and better business.
I like to say I think jfonz is ok. I think solo seems to be solid guys from what I have seen.
What’s not solid are the idiots that surround him. That twin-charged disaster is from this idiot that has been part of bringing drama to jfonz. But when you wonder who these random people are that praise jfonz there b5 guys. Completely irrelevant pointless b5 guys. The same bunch of guys who are bringing down the B5 community are jumping in to post for the nothing results in the B8.
Your not going to get track results from these guys until they really have something and to me all these excuses shows they don’t. The B8 S4 guys are much smarter and much more demanding then the B5 guys. The B8 guys aren’t impressed by weak fake dyno results. The B8 guys see way past that. If the results n these guys had was so great what did the twin charged disaster do before it got hacked up. Seriously where are those stage 1 and 2 results. They sold a pulley right. So where are those results. With no results you would have to think there results sucked and why spend all this time posting dyno stuff and no actual results. Well it’s again because they probably suck. Now that they said they made so much more it’s time to back it up and they can’t back up the dyno bullshit so they just make excuses. The B8 S4 guys are the biggest track guys out of all the S4s. For any company to not know that and to not test and prove there just said they don’t get it. So clearly you don’t get actual b8 guys praising them. It’s b5 guys who’s 13 second 500whp b5 s4 is why b5 guys don’t go to the track. They say oh I made 500whp so I have a 10 second car.
Solo and jfonz can be a great combo. They both need to leave behind the trolls and get away from the B5 stuff that the B8 guys don’t like. They need to get to the track prove what they say on the dyno is true. But I don’t see that happening so what you will see is more b5 guys jumping into the B8 threads telling the B8 guys how it is. The bad part for the b5 guys is the B8 guys are smarter and faster then they are so the old typical b5 guys jumping in to say how great something is won’t work
Justin, you kind of contradict yourself with that outlook. If they (Jfonz and SOLO) choose to surround themselves with those individuals they aren’t any better IMHO. You can give him a legit name or shop all you want, but he is the same guy and that will never change. He isn’t going to suddenly develop business morals or honesty.
They are also choosing to sell tunes with dyno number garbage, the one thing that we hate and one major problem that completely ruins platforms.
It doesn’t matter if the kid has even been a little bit successful tuning B5s in the past, he is a tuner that developed from a website that steals from true professionals. He wasn’t against “learning” from other people’s work in the past and I’m sure nothing has changed. In my eyes he is just a mediocre tuner that will bounce around from place to place for the rest of his life. He will never be part of anything successful because nothing about his past or present is legitimate. He is nothing but a pretender.
Just curious why you’re calling this a disaster? Has the project been scrapped? I was under the impression they were at some point going to release something of sorts. Whether it’s an actual turbo system, I’m not sure, but infinkc seemed to hint some kind of modification to the cooling pre-blower.
Is kind of weird how they just release dyno videos and have people “take rides” at SEMA.
What part of it wasn’t a disaster? The car probably barely runs.
In reality the thought of the setup is fucking stupid. It’s just a talking point or a setup that people just think is SO COOL.