If you think their retail pricing is nuts you should see the discount they offer dealers, I am surprised he does any business at all. But hey if he can actually get those prices more power to him although he seems to be the one guilty of going after those users that seem to contribute. (primetime and the paddles and I would suspect that this guy was also in someway complaining about this davidb8 thread… although that is just a guess). I am surprised ECS hasn’t stomped him out yet. I wouldn’t be surprised if he was possibly buying through OEMplus or someone of that nature.
Alex at Europrice and David had partnered up (in a way) recently. Alex was sourcing and creating the custom harnesses for tail lights and David was doing the required coding. As far as ECS is concerned, they have been stealing off of David’s research for sometime. David would figure out a retrofit and ECS would then mysteriously start peddling a part or kit at a giant mark-up.
David lives in Oakville …for now. He still has his cool Nunavut polar bear license plate on his car though
Anyway I just think they are trying to prove that if you want to find a marketplace that has a really low barrier to entry and very modest proof of performance required, there is no better market than AZ B5 S4. It is a scanner tuner’s paradise.
cylinder wall thicknes question: Is this guy not dead wrong?
[quote=MonzaA5]To me, the biggest question would be, how well do the engine and transmission hold up to all the extra power, especially given that the car would be driven hard on the track? The 4.2L engine was not designed for forced induction; there’s a reason why Audi reduced displacement to 4.0 on the new twin turbo V8 (the cylinder walls on the 4.2FSI are extremely thin). The 6-speed tiptronic is also not meant for handling huge amounts of torque. Someone on a5oc complained about it overheating on the track…and that’s with stock hp.
The bottom line is, if you want a supercharged car, buy one that was designed that way by the factory.
It’s a fact. Audi has been doing this with it’s turbo/supercharged engines forever (i.e. 2.7T being a beefed up version of the 2.8, 3.0T a beefed up version of the 3.2 and the original 1.8T being based on a reinforced 2.0L ea827 block).
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I am pretty sure the wall thickness and spacing is the same on the 3.0T as the 4.2 FSI and even 4.2 MPI
Anyone care to remind me if I’m wrong? And if he’s wrong, please remind him lol.
Cool, so stroke is the differentiating factor creating the displacement reduction, not bore. Thanks.
See, that MonzaA5 guy posts as if he is right, and those guys will all believe him lol. Just watch…APR S5 kit sales will slow down while guys sit back and go ‘damn…I didn’t realise my cylinder walls were so thin that I can’t handle a supercharger’
It’s good comedy watching misinformation spouted as if bellowed by the gods from the top of the highest mountain.
yup, makes sense for vw/audi to just vary stroke. The motors are pretty much all just bigger 3.2 V6s as far the rest of the design (the new v10 is a split crank pin now).
And it is unfortunate there are so many ‘experts’ and followers in the newer platforms. Now if I’m remembering this all correctly the longer stroke necessitates a shorter rod or piston to have everything contained in the same area (stroke being dependent on the length of the crank throw), which could cause stress due to more cylinder wall loading (shorter rod) or piston weakness (less mass, less ability to handle heat) but from the sounds of it due to his mention of the cylinder wall thickness I’m lead to believe thats not what he was talking about.
I couldn’t sit back and listen to striddy very long, so I had to go in on him Saki style.
I think what scared me the most was when he said he liked the RS4 because it was a sedan and he could get 2 car seats in it…because of guys like him I am all for controlled conception!
Well the beauty about guys like that, as with liars and criminals, is that if you let them speak enough they will give you what you need to expose them. Telling the truth is really easy…but telling lies is very tough to keep straight.
Forums are great because everything they have ever posted is saved and searchable.
so he went 12.77 @ 111 with an Eaton M112 and JHM headers?
a few years ago he went 12.77 @ 110 with an Eaton M90 and piggies
Just shows…the blowers are maxed out, and no matter what mods you throw at them, it’s not going to fix the blower (although the M112 should have more headroom than this…and we should give him a few kicks at it to perfect it).
I told ngng this years ago that he should have stopped modding when he got the JHM headers because his car wouldn’t go much faster than that with the M90. Basically the M90 forces a volume of air while headers create efficiency to flow CFM that is probably 98% of what the M90 is able to do. So you may get a tiny bump adding an M90 to a headers car but you’re not going to see much value…just a smaller bank account. When you add headers to an M90 car, it’s a virtual waste of money if power is your goal. It may help a tiny bit, but reality is that you just wasted thousands.
Here’s VWricer’s old run.
VWRCER B6 S4 4.2 Manual 93 PES gutted stock/3.0" custom PES SC (M90) 7 lbs 12.77 @ 110.3 1.81
Anyway, kudos to VWrcer for posting up his result. Also good to see his car is running again. I believe his engine blew with the PES kit on it. Not sure what happened.
He is not promoting PES. He is not boasting. He us not pulling any scams. He is just proud that his 14 second car is now a 12.7 car. Can hardly fault him for that. He is getting defensive because he is kinda getting slammed.
He was resigned to the fact that his car would only ever run mid to high twelves a long time ago. Good guy if memory serves.
He just bought that kit, installed it his self and for a while was the fastest B6/7 S4 ever.
The other guys in the thread are just saying dumb shit including that RS4 guy. If he is such a stud why doesn’t he take his RS4 to coastal Carolina and show ya all how awesome he is. Trying to call out euroswagr is dumb considering euro has an awesome 12.8 timeslip from an S4 with maybe$4,000 in mods lol. Lets see 07toy post something better in his twice the price RS4 and $15,000 modlist…that will be interesting to watch.