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LOL… so funny

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Providing Engineers Superchargers… one polished turd at a time

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also an appearance by Shomegrown

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[video=youtube;59Rt9mB2tpM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=59Rt9mB2tpM[/video]
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shomegrown aka Chris Ostberg aka verruckt is comical.

In that video it says he ‘spun all 4 tires for 35 feet’

no you didn’t. Because that skid was a total of about 25 feet, and the car itself is 15 feet long, so you can’t exactly take credit for that. More like a 10-15 foot burn, which is pretty cool, but please. Ask him for a timeslip for his mid 12 second @ 113 B5 S4.

To be fair, the OP, never said he was an engineer, but that his friend is a former PES “engineer” and designed the manifold.

^This is how I interpreted it as well.

That being said, there was an “engineer” involved in this blower selection process along the way, which is unsettling seeing the blower they chose.

Unless he has lsd front and rear, wouldnt that just be two wheels spinning (one front, one rear), not all four?

edit: Nevermind, the two rears definitely left a patch

I have already talked with that guy in the mid-atlantic section. He seems like he is not going to bother with any performance testing. Also he said that he paid $2,600 for it. Headers would have been a better investment in my opinion but what do I know.

I’m saying there are 4 patches that are around 10-15 feet each (2+2), and just because they connect to make a long line 25’ long doesn’t mean the car spun all 4 tires for that whole distance (nor does it mean you can add another 10’ to that to impress high schoolers dropping $2,000 in lawnmowing money to buy a b5).

I did a burnout on a little return road at the dragstrip to get the shit and stones off my tires once it was four lines of about 10’ each. One per tire. The rears line finished just after the fronts line started making it look 20 feet long.

The rs4 is 15’ long and the wheelbase is probably 10 feet. So by shomegrown’s math I spun all four tires by 9+9+ another random 10’…so 29’!

I got the impression he was saying he wasn’t going to get a baseline run ie: the 1/4 pre-PES for fear of breaking the existing clutch. It seems like he’s willing to put it to the test once his kit is installed. We’ll have to wait and see how this thing plays out…and if he continues his quest for transparency.

At least he’s only mentioned “engineer” 3 times so far. This might be promising. lol

I love when people boast about being an engineer…and then miss simple things like the fact that the M90 means your $9,000 supercharger kit will only match cars with headers and catback + LW parts and tune. Certainly the bolt on car will spend a boatload ($6,000 or so) but ask yourself what you’d rather have…a stock S4 with a $9,000 supercharger kit that makes you about 80 hp and you still have restrictive stock exhaust manifolds/downpipes (aka a dream cylinder wall scoring setup with the cast B67 pistons) or would you rather have the full JHM bolt on suite, and $3,000 in your pocket to make similar power? The opening of the JHM team boost vs. team NA video answers it…when they rev the two cars. I absolutely love that clip.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=3n7xVwjWWD0

Anyone wanna put bets on it not going any faster than a tune/exhaust jhm s4?

According to JimmyBones above, we’ll never know as he’s not planning to measure the performance gains of a $2600 performance mod.

Plus he conveniently ignored my post asking him about metrics.

Edit: Right after saying this, I checked AZ and he did respond.

People like that get what they deserve. I don’t mean to be harsh here but if he can’t do a simple Google search he isn’t much of an engineer. These types avoid testing so they never have to admit failure. They test with an ego powered but dyno. The results never fail to impress them. Regardless of the lackluster results.

I’m sure he will conveniently ignore anything that provides proof that he can’t outsmart a blower that’s too small. The best thing you can do to help members like him are to provide a list of websites that he can list his car for sale on when he realizes he spent three times the money he thought to make his car no faster then most of the non supercharged S4s.

The PES supercharger should of came with a lifetime supply of ice to throw on the manifold

I actually need to correct myself. He did respond to my metrics question. Cool.

Why do people add performance mods, and then not push their car for fear of breaking clutches and axles. What’s the point.

dude this is like deja vu

didn’t the last idiot who thought he could reinvent the wheel with a PES m90 post that he was an engineer every 15 seconds?

If he’s an engineer, ask him if he understands what a compressor map is and if he knows how many HP 1 CFM makes.

LOL… so funny

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Providing Engineers Superchargers… one polished turd at a time

To be fair, the OP, never said he was an engineer, but that his friend is a former PES “engineer” and designed the manifold.