nice, I always liked the OZs on my S4
looks beastly
Original timing:
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Oh wow you can see the crack. How many miles again. How did your cam sprockets look. That guide was on its last legs.
I also like that the jhm kit gives you a stronger guide for that spot so you don’t have to do this again.
…I don’t know about “on its last leg”. I would say that near the majority of S4’s have at least a small crack in 1 of their guides. And I also believe that they will keep running this way for a LONG time until the crack finally snaps completely and the guide gets knocked out of place (my first S4 had 130k miles and was still running a couple years after selling it to Joey C). There’s not a lot of extra space for it to go so unless it breaks into multiple pieces my belief is that it will stay in place for awhile.
My motor is out and I’m about to crack open the back covers. I’ve got pretty much all my parts now minus the Powerflex diff mount and a new Raxle.
I laid out all of my JHM parts and I hate to say it…but I was kinda unimpressed. They are just reusing the RS4/Q7 metal guide. They didn’t design anything or use a new part at all…they just pulled a different part # for that one piece. I’d like to see them design all new guides to get rid of the other 3 guides that are still completely nylon. Also, this is the first time I’ve held a mechanical adjuster in my hands…it’s a lot smaller than I had expected. For a solid piece of metal like this, I really hope they go down in price after awhile. I mean it’s nice that they are half the price of OEM but I don’t feel like they’ve re-invented the wheel here or anything.
Now…any good idea for cleaning the gunk all over our motors?
I’m starting to feel lazy and the thought of trying to cover up the electronics and pressure washing everything is starting to look more appealing.
YOU kinda sound like the guy on AZ who thought they were just hunks of metal…therefore easy to make and should cost pennies.
I have a lot of respect for you, but your complaining about JHM offering you beefier OEM components and creating an alternative to the over priced flawed OEM adjusters. They cut your cost in half and you want them to cut it in half again??
I would have killed for these options a few years ago. The built heads came out a few weeks after I rebuilt my heads…shitty luck I guess
Don’t get bent out of shape over those comments, but it’s the way I see it.
Also, I think cleaning the motor is a must, just use a tone of brake cleaner, wire brushes and maybe a little hose water. Pressure washer seems a little risky.
Exactly euro
One it was on its last leg once that goes it’s the beginning of the end. It’s cracked that means it’s already broken. Sure you can drive on cracked rotors cracked rims and a cracked frame but it’s all a bad idea and it’s in its last leg. That little bit breaks and it’s falling
I’m with you on liking to see more new parts for the guides but that means more money for the kit. So consider that jhm cut the cost in 1/2 for the one part and you would still like to see it be cheaper. That’s obviously your right but if jhm made more guides to replace the rest of the stock guides that would be way more expensive. So that kinda goes against what it sounds like your shooting for.
Also you can say jhm is just reusing a guide but they are the ones that figured it out and made sure it worked. None of us did that or tested or even knew about it. And it solved the major issues with the timing system. So while your unimpressed that’s your right I’m not only impressed but I’m super happy that a company cared enough to figure that out.
The good news is nasty got to this in time and saved a bunch of more work and money
99.7kmiles I believe. Was getting ready to hit 100kmiles
My engine is in the hands of my go to audi mechanic.
Are you in CT?
Famous last words…
yup
…I figured somebody would bring that up. Honestly that guy was exactly what made me think this. Now that I’ve got a set of my own, I really get his point. They aren’t just hunks of metal, they are sprockets. I know JHM went to a lot of work to find somebody to produce them just right within their tolerances, and with the right metal to be stronger and cheaper than OEM. I don’t ignore this fact like you so claim of the other guy. We understand that a lot of money and time went into the R&D of this part. All of the being said…it is just a sprocket made from a single piece of metal. They didn’t re-invent the wheel on how to manufacture a sprocket. I’d bet the companies that make bike sprockets could knock one out just as easily. It’s for this reason that I could imagine somebody taking this part to “re-engineer” themselves before slapping on their own logo and charging $250 less than JHM. Now I don’t think that’s right or moral at all, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it happened with the price point being where it is. That is why I said they may should lower their price, but I was more referring to in the future, maybe after a couple years once their R&D costs have long since been paid for.
And as for the single FSI guide being used…sorry but I’d bet that its compatibility would have been common knowledge in the near future. Several people had already brought it up on the forums and for the price, it’s not exactly a big gamble for people to try. The part I don’t like is JHM isn’t always up front about what parts make up their kits. They like mentioning that these kits use “their new, updated, re-enforced guide”. Why don’t they just come right out and say it’s an AUDI FSI guide? They make it sound like they are producing new parts, when that just isn’t the case. Same scenario happened with the R-series PP. People tried to fight SO HARD to say they weren’t using ACT parts. Who give a flying fuck if they do or not? but JHM could have squashed that a lot quicker had they just said yes or no. That and the fact that it was re-painted and had maker marks ground off just make it seem shady.
Now don’t use any of this to say I am not a JHM fan. I am. I’ve spent over $5000 with them and have most of their parts (tune, clutch/fw/pp, spacers, LWCP, timing kit, and all the mounts they sell). I give them more appreciation than anyone one else because until them all of the other companies didn’t give a rats ass about the 4.2 platform,. However, I don’t think that means you can’t still be critical about some things as well. I have just been stating some of my own opinions. I just hate it that it seems like any post that’s not “ALL HAIL THE ALMIGHTY JHM” gets blasted.
Now I’m gonna refrain from any other JHM related banter in this thread so no to dirty it up any more.
Good luck Nasty, hope everything goes back together well. I’m kind of surprised you went this far not to complete the job yourself. Nevertheless the car should feel good as new with all those new parts on. And I’d guess you’ll be done well before I will since you seem to be a few days ahead of me and I’ve not had much time to work on my car/motor lately.
lol I’m not ashamed to admit that I’m scared to mess with the timing by myself haha. When it’s something I’m not confident on I’ll pass the work over
Can we move this content from BC out of nasty thread. Please.
BC you clearly have never actually made anything. So I see how you don’t think the time or efforts are worth much. The only FACTS here are that none of this existed and non of these things were tested. Jhm spent the money and time to test and you don’t know anything about what it took or didn’t take to make the sprockets. You don’t know what guide it is and all your arguments are the same lame … I bet… or I don’t thunk… or I can’t believe. None of it is fact…why didn’t jhm just say this or that. Your guessing you don’t know what the pp Is or even the story behind it. Your guessing you know what the guide is. Your guessing and assuming you know what it takes to make the sprockets.
It’s just funny how smart everyone becomes after someone else spends the time and money to make or figure something out. Seriously have a lot of respect for you but to be minimizing the fact that someone took the time to make a needed part and cut the cost in 1/2 and your still complaining about the price. That’s just sad. It says to me you have no idea what it takes to make something like that.
That’s absurd if you think about it’s importance and the RPM it spins at and the RPM they are planning to spin their built motors at. Sure anyone can develop one and test it…but you aren’t just risking the price of labor and materials. You are risking a BHF…or 5. I’m not here to argue with you, but you’re only looking at half the picture. People who purchase these items aren’t paying to the basic part and material. They are paying for the R&D and basically the name, in the sense that JHM, the only company that gives a shit about the BHF, has tested and verified this as a cost effective alternative.
[quote]it’s not exactly a big gamble for people to try.
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Sure, they could try it for cheap…again if it didn’t work, hopefully they have a few BHFs laying around (without timing issues or cylinder wall issues)
[quote]Same scenario happened with the R-series PP. People tried to fight SO HARD to say they weren’t using ACT parts. Who give a flying fuck if they do or not? but JHM could have squashed that a lot quicker had they just said yes or no. That and the fact that it was re-painted and had maker marks ground off just make it seem shady.
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JHM should comment on it, it’s a pointless argument. But it’s also pointless to care when we know JHM doesn’t make the LWFW either. I guarantee ACT wasn’t sitting around thinking…“Man those B6/B7 S4 and RS4 need a pressure plate with more clamping force and the elimination of the SAC system, let’s make one for them”
The reality is JHM found another issue and worked with one of the most well known clutch manufacturers to SOLVE the problem and offer us a better alternative to the OEM RS4 PP.
[quote]Now don’t use any of this to say I am not a JHM fan. I am. I’ve spent over $5000 with them and have most of their parts (tune, clutch/fw/pp, spacers, LWCP, timing kit, and all the mounts they sell). I give them more appreciation than anyone one else because until them all of the other companies didn’t give a rats ass about the 4.2 platform,. However, I don’t think that means you can’t still be critical about some things as well. I have just been stating some of my own opinions. I just hate it that it seems like any post that’s not “ALL HAIL THE ALMIGHTY JHM” gets blasted.
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I’m not trying to blast you, but I think you should expand your view of these complaints. Sit there and honestly think about JHMs return on investment for some of this stuff. Do you really think they are just raking in the money on the adjusters specifically? I can only imagine what it will take to break even on built motors…sometimes I feel they do this shit half for fun.
IMHO I think JHM should charge more for their tune, I think most of their products are pretty fairly priced in the grand scheme of things. I’ve been pretty amazed at the quality of everything I’ve owned. The thing is you also get a pretty decent guarantee that a part purchased through JHM or designed by the will be a quality piece.
EDIT: MOVE THIS TOO
Bickering in somebody else’s build thread is just rude…I’m sending a PM to Euroswagr so that we can stop while we are behind.
We may have the same understanding of the way things are (even if you’ll never believe it) and yet still come to different opinions. That’s life. Sometimes it just is the way it is.