New Project

Found some AHA heads with cams at pick and pull, off a 2003 VW Passat, $67.50 a piece. Took about 3 hours to get both sides out. I m so excited, I seriously thought that i would have to at least travel to Sacramento or the Bay Area, resort to ebay or use LKQ to source them, in any instance, I had budgeted $500 for heads, so that’s was a nice little surprise.

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Minor set back on the oil pan. As I had read, the upper oil pan has to be clearanced to miss the arp main bolts and the cast fins in the oil pan (some had said with the BEL block, this was not necessary, no go for my motor though). Not a big deal, but since I m already in trouble with the wife from being gone most of yesterday (doing car errands), we will be going for a mountain bike ride to find a swimming hole along one of the local creeks, so I ll have to take care of it during the week. Anyways, here’s a picture of the witness marks left by the contact between the pan and bolts when I was test fitting.

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My poor pathetic Mastiff feeling neglected because I was gone yesterday. He loves to go get in the pond and then come inside dripping wet.

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Got the upper oil pan cast fins notched to fit the arp main studs

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The progress that I made afterwards

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The B5 stuff kinda sucks because there are so many guys out there that have no idea what there talking about. Its clear your finding out each step of the way what is and what isnt. Great build thread.

Thank you. I am having a blast building this, but I do notice a lot of misinformation spread out there. I m glad i have the factory service manual because there is so much conflicting info, especially search returns off of the Zoo.

I was trying to tighten the oil pump down and noticed that I couldn’t rotate the crank anymore, so after scratching my head for a couple minutes, I looked between the main caps and where the oil pump bolts down and to my suprise ( /s ) the arp main bolts are making contact, guess I will be doing some more grinding.

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Got the oil pump and main studs to not contact. Unfortunately I took the picture after I already installed the chain so my custom grinding is only slightly visible (definitely function over form).

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This almost makes me think all the so called experts on the other forum have obviously never done this. Your pointing out things I dont think most even know about. Good work keep it up

I completely agree. I know that I downloaded an excel spreadsheet from one of the “well known” members over there and the engine specs were not correct, and the worse thing is that I see a lot of people using these measurements as though they were the factory specs. Oh well, I couldn’t be happier with the hard copied Elsa factory manual that my buddy and I printed out (every page plus enlarged pages for the wiring schematics).

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Well I got some devastating news today, my 6 year old Mastiff has bone cancer and has about 3-6 months to live so I am not sure how much of a priority my engine build will be in the short term future. I thought that I might have this together by the end of the race season but I have lost all motivation right now, sorry guys.

No need to apologize. Metal can wait. Your dog is obviously more important.

Thanks Happy. He is doing really well. My wife and I are trying to boost his immune system through diet and tea(s), so he can take it to this cancer for as long as he comfortably can. We are actually adding another mastiff to our family, we pick him up in about 6 weeks. He is the solid apricot one.

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Nice. My fiancé used to have a neopolitan

That is awesome. I have debated for awhile about getting a Neo, at some point I will. Such a gorgeous dog.

Godspeed, dogs really do become part of the fam. I have a 11 month Aussie and I’m not sure what we would do without him. Good luck and hope his last months are happy. New pup looks beautiful btw

Thank you Vtgt, those are very nice words and very true. Kaiden (my current Mastiff) is being given lots of love, lots of herbs and healthy food. Artoo (the new pup) will hopefully inject Kaiden with even more reason to live and hopefully Kaiden can pass on some of his badass personality traits on to Artoo.

Amen!

I’ve been quietly enjoying this build as you’ve been doing an awesome job. I also agree that our pets, not just dogs, become family and it can hurt every bit as much to lose one. My cat became terminally ill at a young age but I was lucky enough to treat her for 3 years before I eventually had to end the suffering. It’s been a little over a year since then and I still really miss having her around. Best of luck with everything and I hope you get some good time together.

Thank you so much guys, I appreciate the kind words. I accept Kaiden’s condition and appreciate any time that I get with him. All I can do is be thankful for the time that has already been provided. I don’t have to work till tuesday and I do feel the urge to start back to the smaller stuff on the motor, so I will probably put the lower pan on and maybe a few gaskets tonight or tomorrow.

I thought I would update with all of my torque specs and measurements as it seems there is some inaccuracy floating around out there.

Crank Shaft Bearings:

Axial Clearance -> When New Wear Limit
.090-.251 mm .28 mm

*Do not interchange used bearings
-Attach dial gauge with universal dial gauge bracket VW 387 to oil pump and bring it into contact with crank web.
-Press crankshaft against dial gauge by hand and set gauge to -0-.
-Press crankshaft away from dial gauge.

Radial Clearance -> When New Wear Limit
.018-.045 mm .10 mm

*Measure radial clearance with Plastigage

Crank Shaft Bearing Caps

-Bearing #1 is Toothed Belt End (oil pump)

Tightening Sequence (Arp Main Stud Kit and Factory Stretch Bolts)

                       -|  |-  Toothed Belt End
            [u]                            [/u]
         A | 14    6     5   13 | A
            | 10    2     1    7  |
            | 12    4     3   11 |
         A [u]| 16    8     7   15 |[/u] A
                 Flywheel End

Stage 1 -> 30 nm
Stage 2 -> 60 nm
Stage 3 -> *Arp = 100 ft/lb or Stock bolts = 90 degrees further (30 nm, 60 nm then 90 degrees)

A= 25 nm

Cylinder Bore - use a Snap Bore Gauge and Outside Micrometer or a Cylinder Bore Gauge
_________________
| | Measure for cylinder roundness @ 3 points (1,2,3)
(1) | | (1) 10 mm down from top of cylinder
| | (2) ~in the middle of 1 & 3
| | (3) 10 mm up from bottom of cylinder
(2) | |
| | Honing Dimensions:
| | Cylinder Bore Diameter 81.01 mm (nominal)
(3) | | Service limit = Nominal - Actual must be less than .08 mm

Piston Diameter and Ring Measurement

Measure 10 mm from skirt bottom, 90 degrees to piston pin axis.

Piston Diameter = 80.95 mm (nominal)

Nominal - Actual must be less than .04 mm

Piston - Ring to Grove Clearance

when new wear limit
.02 - .08 mm .10 mm

Piston Ring Gap

*Push ring in squarely to a position approx. 15 mm from bottom end of cylinder

       [u][b]when new[/b][/u]                                  [u][b]wear limit[/b][/u]

Ring 1 .35 - .50 mm 1.0 mm
Ring 2 .50 - .70 mm 1.4 mm
Ring 3 .25 - .50 mm .8 mm

I used Weisco Piston Ring installation instructions for Ring placement and Ring Gap theory. If you cannot locate it on the web, pm me and I will email a PDF version.

Connecting Rods

*Only replace complete sets of connecting rods
*Do Not interchange connecting rod bearings

Radial Clearance:

  • If reusing bearings, mark with a felt pen first. (personally, I recommend new bearings, especially if flex honing)
  • Remove connecting rod bearing cap. Clean bearing cap and bearing journal.
  • Place a length of Plastigage corresponding to width of bearing on bearing journal or bearing shell.
  • Install connecting rod bearing cap and tighten to 20 nm (use old bolts). Do not rotate crankshaft.
  • Remove connecting rod bearing cap again.
  • Compare width of Plastigage with calibrated scale.

Clearance when new Wear Limit
.015 - .062 mm .12 mm

Installation and Torque (arp)

*Bearing Tangs face exhaust side of motor (per IE directions)
-With new connecting rods bolts, install and tighten hand tight.

Tightening Torque:
Stage 1 = 30 nm
Stage 2 = 30 ft/lb

Upper Oil Pan

-There is no gasket between the block and upper section of pan. Only use silicone sealant D 454 300 A2 or equivalent (I used Victor Reinz - Reinzosil). Thickness of sealant bead should not exceed 2-3 mm, any larger puts a risk of sealant getting into oil strainer/lines.
-Tighten all securing bolts to 5 nm initially, then
-Tighten bolts securing oil pan to cylinder block in diagonal sequence to 10 nm
-Tighten M10 bolts securing oil pan to cylinder block to 45 nm

Front Sealing Flange (Install this prior to the Oil Pump and supply lines)
-Attach chain to Oil Pump Drive gear on crankshaft.
-Apply Sealant to oil pan, but DO NOT put sealant on sealing surface of the cylinder block.
-After installing gasket on sealing surface of the cylinder block, apply a small amount of sealant to the joints between oil pan and front sealing flange.
-Tighten Torque: M6 = 10 nm, M8 = 20 nm,(4) bolts in oil pan = 10 nm
*I put a new crankshaft oil seal before installing Front Sealing Flange

Oil Pump and Oil Pump Drive Chain
-Before bolting down Oil Pump, install short oil line into pump and upper section of oil pan with new O-Rings
-Tighten (3) Hex bolts to 25 nm to secure Oil Pump in place.
-Push longer Oil Supply line into Front Sealing Flange with new O-ring
-Attach chain to Oil Pump Sprocket and fit on Oil Pump shaft (there is a specific orientation)
-Tighten T45 bolt to 25 nm

Lower Oil Pan
-Install new gasket on lower section of oil pan and install on upper section of oil pan with two diagonally opposite bolts (I have conflicting info here, most say a sealant gasket while Elsa says to not use any adhesive or sealant, I elected to purchase the gasket for the 2.8l 30(v).
-Tighten all securing bolts hand-tight.
-Tighten bolts to 10 nm, working from center outward.

Crankcase Breather Housing (Valley Pan Gasket)
-Always replace Gasket
-Tighten to 10nm

I will continue adding to this as a go further into the build.