Is that with the new IM.
Damn, impressive numbers. How fun is that thing to drive?
You plan to make it out to the track this year?
^^^He promised he would. That’s good news for AMD and EPL (if he goes of course). Track has been open for a few weeks so wondering what’s up. Maybe he’s waiting for summer and shitty density altitude lol. Shame the cameraman avoided showing the curve.
We’re all looking forward to some awesome results. That car is making around 750 hp and 800 tq…weighs 3600 lbs…and has quattro. It should throttle the MPH record books for this platform. Car makes immense power to weight. Note the trap speeds below…all hp numbers at the crank
B5 S4 3600lbs/250hp = 14.4 lbs per hp - 14.2 @ 98
B7 S4 3850lbs/340hp = 11 lbs per hp - 13.8 @ 102
B7 RS4 3920 lbs/420 hp = 9.3 lbs per hp - 12.8 @ 108
APR SC B7 RS4 - 3920 lbs/520 hp = 7.5 lbs per hp - 11.8 @ 117
Audi R8 5.2 - 3750 lbs/525 hp = 7.2 lbs per hp - 11.9 @ 119
TTS SC B7 RS4 - 3800 lbs/610 hp = 6.2 lbs per hp - 11.7 @ 124
Ferrari 458 - 3425 lbs/570 hp = 6.0 lbs per hp - 11.0 @ 128
Porsche Carrera GT - 3530 lbs/605 hp = 5.8 lbs per hp - 11.3 @ 132
Lamborghini Aventador - 3795 lbs/700 hp = 5.4 lbs per hp - 10.4 @ 136
Killer00S4BurningCoals AMD/EPL Tial770 B5 S4 - 3600 lbs/750 hp = 4.8 lbs per hp - ??.? @ ???
Bugatti Veyron SuperSport - 4545 lbs/1184 hp = 3.8 lbs per hp - 9.9 @ 146
On his last run he trapped around 128 MPH…which is up in the 6 lbs per hp range give or take a bit. According to this un-scientific comparison, that would indicate about 600 hp crank…or 500 whp. Of course he didn’t really drive it very well by his own admission, so maybe that ought to have been 131 or so…or around 620 hp crank (515 whp maybe). What’d his setup dyno back then? Some of these cars are very high tech…shift in a millisecond…launch like champions. All of that is to be considered. of course lots of that technology and transmission help costs drivetrain loss…and some are RWD to offset it. This isn’t perfect…but it’s pretty good.
This new setup, if it’s really making 750 hp (18-19% drivetrain loss from the WHP numbers he just posted) should be trapping up around 137-140 mph.
Here we go again… :
What does that mean? Here we go where?
Its funny the only guys who fight this kind of discussion are the tial guys.
Want to inject some analysis and data and discuss what a car is capable of? Sure, as long as its not a tial car…because then you’re hating.
If jhm threw up a dyno, or apr or whomever, we would do the same. In fact WE DID. We had ‘what will the apr rs4 trap/et?’ poll thread back in the day. Know who complained ? NOBODY. We all made predictions, and guess what…the car ran high 11s at high teens mph, just as everyone thought. We did the same when jhm supercharged their b6 s4…and guess what? It ran what the consensus thought it would.
Saki we all know that anything you post about 1/4 mile results are lies, especially your time slips 
Interesting comparison though, low 10s (based on that logic) would be pretty sick to see
I have only been on AR for like a month now and I see the same things over and over and over. Not that I wouldn’t like to see what the car can/will/should do too, but the constant and same posts are just getting old.
From what I can tell, the east cost guys are they 1/4 people who live their life a 1/4 at t time. which is great and all. From what I can tell, the west costers (who have FT/BW/Tials/GT’s) don’t see the strip all that much, if even ever…
for me (and I say this again, FOR ME) I don’t base a car’s speed or “how fast it is” on a 1/4 strip, I do it all by Freeway races…
But correct me if i’m wrong, this thread is for Dyno results not 1/4 drag or FATs or anything else…
But if your car is quick, why not go to a local 1/4 mile track? From a stand still to xxx.xx mph will tell you how great the setup is that you have.
You could run a 11.7@ 125. That’s all that matters. Don’t try to bracket race, sleep at the lights. Reaction time doesn’t count on the ET.
It tells the truth about the setup of the car. 60-130 is bullshit if you ask me, who the fuck is doing 130 mph on the streets? If you are you are stupid. What, do people look for other cars to race at a freeway speed roll? AWD, no need for it…
How great the setup is or how crappy of a driver I am… Lets say a run a 12.8 at 115 or whatever and all you are going to say is Tial turbo’s suck and say how K04’s are better bla bla bla. When in reality it’s not the turbo’s, It’s ME. I know where my flaws are and how a good car mixed with a shitty driver doesn’t make it a good run!
Drag racing puts more stress on axles, transmission, clutches than a freeway run. Go a head a call me stupid, I will still choose to do freeway runs rather than a drag race!
and for the record, i’m not defending anyone’s car or setup…
just myself :o
Making jokes to belittle the quarter mile and linking it to that douchebag movie for ricers is a good defense mechanism, but if you knew us ‘east coast’ guys, you’d know that for the most part we understand the 1/4 mile is a great analytical test and good fun…that’s it. 99% of us will go maybe 2x a year, usually to measure our mods. Acting like there’s a west coast vs. east coast influence is a joke. I can show you dozens of west coast B5 S4 guys who test their B5 S4s at the drag strip, many of whom are on this very site. The B5 1/4 mile scene on the west coast is MASSIVE. It’s just unpopular among people who are terrified of the results. I’ll take my RS4 there probably 4-5 times over its life…just to see how the modifications are coming along. I’m not scared of it. It’s not my obsession. It’s just a cool test, and legal speeding is fun.
If Underground Racing recognizes that quarter mile times are a worldwide referenced benchmark for their 700 to 1500 horsepower cars, why can’t you?
If AMS and their GTR projects recognize the value of producing quarter mile times with their 1000+ hp cars, why can’t you?
If Heffner does, why can’t you?
If JHM takes their B5 S4 there to show what it can do in the quarter mile, why can’t you?
If Jfonz tuned guys take their B5 S4 there to show they can do, why can’t you?
Why is it that the quarter mile is only ‘irrelevant’ or ‘not west coast’ among you and the Tial/EPL/AMD guys? Here’s one reason:
http://i43.tinypic.com/jtqtqw.jpg
Historically, the only guys who really oppose/make jokes about/degrade the quarter mile are the guys whose cars who might be scared of what it will say about their products (scammer companies) or their choices (guys who spent big bucks on their cars for products that turn out to be a failure). I guess we can add the guys who can’t drive to that list…although I find it hard to believe that every Tial/EPL/AMD car is driven by guys with horse-hooves instead of hands. What is everyone so scared of???
a video and a time slip will make it pretty clear how poorly you utilize the car’s power, so shitty driver or not that can be accounted for
This 1/4 mile thing is lame. I’m taking mine to the 1/4 mile when I get it modded to my satisfaction. After that I don’t see myself ever doing it again (in this car), it’s not a race car, I just want definitive numbers for myself.
The point of upgrading axles and clutches and transmissions is to handle the additional power. And if they can’t handle it then you need better parts, lawwwwl.
sorry should clearify. from what I see the PNW has little to any drag runners here.
i don’t mind you saying the parts I have suck or I need to upgrade something to be better.
I’m happy with where my car is at (even if it is slower in a 1/4 than some of you 10’s and 11’s and 12’s sec guys out there)…
Like I keep saying. i will eventually go to the strip and run this car, but to this date my car (on K03’s) has only seen a 13.5 and i’m happy with that. I have nothing to prove to anyone. I haven’t done any FATS or 1/4 runs so I have no clue what mine would even be. but those of you that want to say whatever you’d like about AMD/EPL/Tial, do your thing… Not bothering me any…
I’ll have video and time slip when I go, but I just need to find time now to do so…
lol okay.
It’s just very odd how you guys all have these MASSIVE POWER cars…and splash your dyno sheets all over the forums…but don’t want to test them the way Americans have traditionally tested fast cars for decades. Not only do you claim to not want to, but you go out of your way to discount the 1/4 mile, to say it is irrelevant…it makes no sense.
No other B5 guys have this attitude about the quarter mile…just the AMD/EPL customers. You, killer00S4burningcoals, dshot, jason@amd, EvilEvo, that other PNW guy who apparently makes even more power than burningcoals…all of you guys talk about your 500-600-700 whp cars every chace you get. All of you flash dynos up all over the forums. None of you take the car to the strip.
If I had a 600 horsepower 500 lb-ft torque car like yours that weighed 3600 lbs I would be excited to go to the dragstrip and see what the car can do. It should be a frigging 1/4 mile superstar, and a quick trip to the strip on a cold night or morning will reveal a whole lot about it. The B5 is a dogshit chassis for the road course. The B5 is not exactly a luxury barge cruiser. The B5 is a straight-line assassin. The 1/4 mile is a perfect test for the B5. Everyone in B5 land EXCEPT you guys recognizes that.
I wish I had a 500-600-700 whp car! if I owned a 600whp/500wtq car i’d take it to the track too. I agree, it’s a great straight line car, And i prefer to do my straight line run from 50+ you just seem to prefer from 0.
I will drag it when I have time.
I am wondering something though. If Tial suck so much, how come you really fast 1/4mile K04 cars don’t go out and try a set of Tials for yourself?
I know what some of you will say “based off what other guys with Tial have been doing at the track they sure don’t see worth it”. Why not try a set of tials and see if they are better or worse for the strip…
Just a thought…