I regret getting into this whole B5 S4 thing. This is one dream I should not have followed. I should have got an old fox body Mustang 5.0 or Mark VII LSC and went nuts with that.
Ruh-Roh, trouble in paradise with your build? Be patient, it will get done and you will be very happy
I think you followed exactly what you sought after and it will be rewarding once everything is done.
You honestly just need to find a couple of competent local s4 guys (not a shop) to finish up the very small amount that is left with your build… If I lived closer, like a few hours or less, I would help you out…
Zero, where are you from?
He is somewhere in Florida…
Impressive.
I have to admit, B5 S4 progress really hasn’t gotten anywhere even now with the 034 STK IMO.
After having my turbo E36, and being a little more into the turbo BMW scene it’s clear the B5 S4 is a lacking platform. It’s either too many people wanting mediocre performance due to costs or little to no new innovation from shops and individuals.
After stepping back I think the best thing for the B5 S4 is still the K04 based turbo. It’s cost/performance ratio cannot be beat especially with the likes of FT in the game now and other SMIC solutions. You can have a relatively fast and solid car if you go that route and I think most people feel the same as far as it being the “safe” choice.
Where as with the BMW world since the cars aren’t already turbo you have guys going from mild to all out. Yet even the mild stock motor builds are FAR faster then any B5 S4 psi for psi.
I do miss my B5, it was civil and nice to drive under most circumstances that you would encounter on the road. But if I were to build one again, it would probably be K04 based because trying to push it beyond that is just too much money for what you get IMO and the performance is proven.
[quote=“EYEspI,post:70,topic:4022”]
Nobody wants to work on the car. The community itself is very problematic with a few exceptions. A lot of in-fighting, arguing, name-calling, suspicions. It’s unsettling. I picked a car that mechanics see as a “red-headed step child” (pardon the meaningless phrase) and the support communities online are very shaky.
[quote=“Monty23,post:72,topic:4022”]
I agree with you. Shops are too busy to make “normal” customers wait for them to finish a car that apparently takes four times as long to work on as others. I’d probably do the same thing if I owned a shop. Put the “pain in the ass car” to the side and get all my other jobs done. It makes sense - but it sucks for the owner of the pain in the ass car.
[quote=“Luvshok,post:73,topic:4022”]
I’m in Palm Beach County, Florida.
[quote=“Zero_Tolerance,post:78,topic:4022”]
Yeah that’s a little out of my reach at the moment 
not sure why he needs anything? Someone’s installing meth and a bunch of other shit in his car. Then it will be tuned.
From the looks of it, his car was built, then the clutch blew, and rather than replace the clutch and get a tune going, a whole bunch of stuff, including a water/meth injection system was thrown into the mix. Now the tuner has to start from the ground up and tune around the meth (assuming). The hardware needs to be installed at the shop…just takes time. Oh, and it was Christmas/New Years in there as well lol.
I’ll agree with that. But maybe it will be a catalyst that helps get the progression rolling again. Because it was always said the STKs were meant more for a DIYer, so options are pretty open on what can be done. So we may see some new turbo options which lead to some more innovative designs.
And while I’m new to the community it seems like there is a bit of an epicenter for the B5 S4 in central PA or just all of PA in general. CT too for that matter. And while it doesn’t seem like a lot of the guys are innovators I think a few of them may be. And there have been multiple threads over on AZ of those guys going the extra distance to get together and help each other out.
So combine a few of the things going on and maybe some progression will come…
Also. Sakimano, what are you looking for in terms of progression? Do you want to see faster 1/4 miles as progression? I doubt you’re looking for Dino queens, since I get the feeling you hate them, and there seems to be a lot in this community.
The car was brought into the shop on the first day with the methanol injection kit. I dropped the car off on November 16th and here’s what we needed to do:
- Install Coil Conversion Kit (done by 11/20/12)
- Install Spark Plugs (done by 11/20/12)
- Install 034 intake with 90mm MAF housing (was done by 11/26/12)
- Install 034 Carbon Fiber Y-Pipe (done by 11/26/12)
Then we needed a few parts (Fuel Pump and Slave Cylinder). While we were waiting for that stuff to arrive, another few things got done:
- Removed and installed replacement door cards (done by 11/27/12)
- Removed and installed new center arm rest (done about a week later)
- So the fuel pump came in and was installed on 12/04/12.
- The slave cylinder arrived on 12/06/12 and was installed shortly thereafter.
So a lot was finished at that point leaving only the methanol injection system and wide-band remaining before the tune. Between then and 12/26/12, Jason got the methanol lines running and only needed a coupler to connect two hoses on 12/26/12.
One thing led to another and the final ingredients arrived on the morning of 01/03/13 (one long piece of tubing instead of a coupler connecting two). Since then, we’ve just been waiting on this last piece of the puzzle (connecting the methanol lines). Oh, and I guess the wide-band will go in before the tuning begins.
what is ‘this last piece of the puzzle’? Anyway, I think this is hardly B5 progress lol. Perhaps an update in your thread.
I added that bit of information in parentheses for you. 
zero juwt sit tight jspec seems like a sokid guy and to be honest the small things take the most time. If you have 15 things that all take 25 min os so that will eat up an entire day. Thats if you go dirextly from one job to tye next. Even something like putting lines in or fitting a wideban isnt a 25mn job setting up can take that long… Whatever you do dont let b5 guys that dont actually jave a shop help. You would be better off pouring a galon of gas in the druver seat and dropping a match in the car
Loveshok being new to the b5 you are what they need but it will be forr not. The b5 isnt really tyat fast of a car its more hype and drama then anything. You have no advancements due to the ego factor. You have kids that ijstall turbos on tuere b5 and then they think there sae certified mechanics so they open a shop only to then force the more profitable products on people to stay afloat.
Then you have the kids that work from moms bastment selling stolen tunes and now they are tuners it all adds up to bullshit and lies to make every desision these copycat tuners or make shift shops seem better
What do you end up with…you end up with a guy who bought a bullshit turbo kit with a bullshit tune postinf a video of him racing a zo6 saying he rocked it and won…when in fact the truth comes out amd he got beat real bad…or you get a guy who self tuned his csr went to the track and when he ran slower then stock blamed it on someone elses and some other tune
^^Interesting read… 2013 is a new year…
[quote=“ChrisK,post:85,topic:4022”]
Absolutely, Jnaut knows his stuff. I just wish the car I chose to run with wasn’t so difficult to work on. I went through it with Velocity Factor as well. I can just see shop owners walking into their shop with a smile on their face thinking, “It’s great to be the boss” and then seeing a B5 S4 in the garage and wanting to commit suicide.
[quote=“Zero_Tolerance,post:87,topic:4022”]
The b5 is a no win car. If the car does well you get attwcked by the slow guys. If the car is fast its probably gong to break when it breaks your mad. If the car is safe its probably slow then you still get attacked by the slow guys but then you add in the guys whos cars dont run they jump in…if you car is middle ground the people who claim to have fast dyno queen cars that mostlikely dont run still attack you and then they guys who are slow and clueless yell at you for logs. Then if you post logs they yell at you about it
In the end there is a few fates for the b5 sell the car forever have a project car that never runs or post a fake video of you beating a car that wasjt raceing you