REVO?

B8 S4
#41

Having them do simple stuff or utilizing their dyno is no big deal, but I wouldn’t let them dig into an Audi for all the money in the world.

If you did go Revo, it would be cool to get a stock dyno, stock 1/4mile at coastal…and then a tuned dyno, tuned 1/4mile runs. I’m truthfully less interested in the dyno stuff, but you seem to like them, lol. Just make sure you keep your findings honest (don’t close off your hack-a-hole for the stock numbers or run meth to inflate the tuned numbers…standardize the testing the best you can)

#42

Saki, I think EPL has the flash at home option, just ask Saxoff I’m sure he’ll tell us ;D

Sky, Did you talk with bgm? If you are going to make the switch you should be looking at one company and one company only GIAC… DSG tune and supposed new tune = best results! Pete’s dad’s 2013 car is fast as shit on GIAC…

#43

Agreed, just wait till they release the V2 for the 2014’s, then drive out there and get GIAC. They also have program switching, so you can use the race map at the drag strip.

#44

Primetime, yes I did.
Drob, nothing, for sure, is written in stone.
Thanks

#45

Just talked to Andrew at GIAC. One to two more weeks for the V2?

#46

Any thoughts on just getting their dsg tune? Perhaps you can get their stage two components use the code on the back of the pulley and simply just get the GIAC DSG flash.

#47

Allegedly you have to do their pulley too. APR’s and REVO’s are same specs. Yes, I’m contemplating GIAC. As I’ve written GIAC is a 6 hour ride, Revo just over an hour. Also, I have to see if the GIAC shop has a dyno. Kinda doubt it, Revo yes. AZ has a GIAC dealer in CA throwing in a free pulley. Thanks

#48

the pulley thing is funny…as is the ‘you must buy our other shit to use our TCU’

I’d like to hear from someone who works in the tuning industry. My suspicion is that this is tied selling at its finest…just a trick/fear play to get you to buy their tune and pulley as well.

#49

I think the whole reason is to prevent you from buying your pulley from SRM or second hand, and then paying stg 1 money for a stg 2 tune…

It gets kind of out of control if you buy it all at once (which is obv what they want), I was quoted something like 3.4k to get stg 2 + dsg + map switcher from a GIAC dealer.

#50

Just called the GIAC dealer in Asheville NC, All German Performance, 828-483-9007. Daniel has been a GIAC dealer for only several weeks. Asked, since I have an APR pulley if I really needed the AWE one, different specs. He is not so sure and is calling GIAC. I think I know the answer? He is also giving me a price. Check below link, his price just over $1700 without V2?

http://www.audizine.com/forum/showthread.php/615105-Free-Install-on-GIAC-AWE-Pulley-Kits

#51

I think you can get the DSG with GIAC with the Stage 1 software, no pulley needed. They did say you need at least some ECU tune to get the DSG software done too.

#52

Got an e-mail from All German Performance in Asheville NC. About $2700 for ECU, pulley, DSG and V2. Unfortunately there is a gent on AZ stating his LC no longer works after the DSG tune? Good grief? Oh yeah, as expected you need their pulley with their tune.

#53

In theory you can probably sell someone the pulley “new in box” for maybe $200. No need to take off your pulley. The GIAC one probably generates .5 PSI more boost I’d reckon, not worth the ~$400 in labor IMO.

#54

can someone explain what ‘V2’ means?

Does that mean ‘we did a shit job on V1 and didn’t properly test it…but our customers tested it for us…so now we’ve fixed it and are calling it V2’?

WTF?

#55

I was told V2 allows one to turn the tune off and on? Uncertain why one would want to do that but…?

#56

For the b8, V2 meant “we found an extra 20 lbft after months of calibration” while for the 2014’s it means “our tune now makes more power than stock”.

Apr also has some cryptic version control, but most new builds I’ve seen were to fix issues, mostly emissions type problems.

#57

I think it’s pretty funny. When these tunes were released in 2010 or whenever it was, guys were running 12.69 and jumping up and down with excitement. The tunes did almost nothing.

I remember early in the game Keith from APR basically admitting all they did was adjust boost bleedoff. Even then the cars weren’t really doing that well.

#58

So the GIAC dealer in Asheville doesn’t know what he is talking about? Makes me feel real good?!

#59

Weren’t some people tossing around low 12s/high 11s with just a tune? I remember those days.

#60

what, with predictions?

All i know is Keith posted a video racing a stock B8 vs. an apr tuned B8. this was before any 1/4 mile runs…before any results from APR

might have been dsg vs. manual

I posted that the delta between stock vs tuned was about 3 car lengths…and that translates to about 4.5 tenths at the drag strip…and that also means about 4 mph at the dragstrip…and about 40 whp on the dyno.

so if stock is 13.0@ 106, I guestimated that means tuned is 12.5-12.6 @ 110

EVERYONE FLIPPED THE FUCK OUT ON ME

I was the anti-christ (again) . Sure enough, when guys went to the strip, I was dead on the money.

The first time I was the antichrist was when I explained that the B8 makes about 360 hp stock and 360 tq as well…and that it does so well because of an incredible, shockingly strong area under the curve. This was when APR released their 320 whp dyno of a stock B8. Everyone applied B5 S4 drivetrain loss from a tough mustang dyno (25%) and threw a party that their S4 was making 420+ hp stock…even though the APR is a hub dyno, and the B8 S4 is a brand new perfect working car rather than a 12 year old rotten B5 running on 5.5 cylinders…

Everyone wanted to believe it made 420 hp because it went 13.0 and the 420hp RS4 went 13.0 in a magazine…so again I was the antichrist.

If the B8 section of Audizoo was a country, I wanted to nuke it back in 2010.