REVOLUTIONARY RESULTS - Dragstrip Database for B6/7 S4 UPDATED 12-APR-2012

UPDATE: September, 2012
THE MASTER QUARTERMILE LIST FOR ALL S/RS PLATFORMS HAS BEEN LAUNCHED!

http://audirevolution.net/quartermile/

Please continue to use this thread to post your results in, and they will be updated on the audirevolution quater mile database.


I wanted to bring this over from another site I posted it on, which I ripped off from justincredible’s post on yet another site lol.

Here’s the list. If you want to be added, we need you to post up a few things, including your modlist for interest’s sake, the date/time/track, as well as 2 timeslips, or a video of the run in question.

  • if you ran 13.0, 13.5 and 13.8, we’re just going to add your 13.0 run to the list
  • if you go the next week and run 12.9, with the same modlist, we’ll update to your new time
  • if you change a couple of parts, and go again and run a worse time…stop buying from PES!
  • if you change a couple of parts, and go again and run a faster time, we’ll add that time to the list (leaving your initial time in tact).

Without further delay, here is the B6/7 S4 list as I am aware of it. Please let me know if there are any additions to be made to the list, or errors that need corrected and I’ll fix it up.

CLICK THE IMAGE TO LOAD FULL SIZED IN A NEW WINDOW/TAB (UPDATED 12-APR-2012)


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A new B6/7 in the 12s this week…jdubya went 12.48 @ 110.7 with JHM N2O and other bolt ons like Fast Intentions full 2.5" downpipes/catback (not sure if catted or not) and JHM Intake Manifold.

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I’ll be going tomorrow evening. It will be my first time so if I do horrible I’ll probably act like I never posted this

When I first went to the dragstrip, I remember fucking a whole bunch of things up. I went again the next week and corrected some of my mistakes, but made some new ones. By the third week I had a good routine down and had it somewhat sorted out. I had read far too many stories on the forums that made me scratch my head…people showing up with their cars overweight…wrong octane…billion degree heat…not shallow staging. All these things conspire against you.

Here’s what I gathered from the forums/internet on how to make sure your dragstrip passes are the best you can get out of your car. You may never launch it like jaybquick/countvohn/cabracco85, but at least you can eliminate a whole ton of other variables, ensuring you post the best time possible for you and your car on that particular day.

If you have some other tips, add them up to the thread, and I’ll continually edit the OP as we go along. Here are some lessons I learned from smarter people then me (I love copying smart people).

1. GET EVERYTHING OUT OF THE CAR - Heavy rubber winter mats…spare tire…tools…jack…shit in the glovebox…EVERYTHING. Don’t rice it up APR style, but just make sure you’re not carrying any weight
2. ARRIVE with 1/8th of a tank of gas. If you need to drive 50 miles to the strip, make sure you leave your house with just over 1/4 tank.
3. BRING ICE - Specifically, a little cooler with an ice bag and a towel - when you first arrive, your car will be hot (because NOBODY lives near the dragstrip lol) so you’ll want to put the bag of ice, wrapped in a towel, on the manifold to cool it down
4. ARRIVE 1 hr EARLY - if test and tune starts at 8pm, arrive at 7pm to let your car cool down. Give yourself an hour, bring your iPhone/Blackberry/iPad/Hustler magazine and kill an hour while you wait for it to open (and while your car cools down).
5. MAKE 2-3 RUNS AT A TIME - then cool the car down. I tend to go 2-3 times, and then let the car cool down for 20-40 minutes. Since Test and tune is usually dead at this time of the year you can pick and choose your spots.
6. BRING A PEN - you may need to fill out a driver card/waivers, and the safety inspection guys I’ve met are always grumpy if you don’t have your own pen.
7. BRING A CAMERA THAT TAKES VIDEO - grab a point and shoot camera that takes video, and wedge it under your passenger side headrest (should hold nicely) so you can film your run. Try to get a view of the strip and the shifter. This way you can hear the engine…you can analyze your shifting etc. after you get home or even while you’re waiting for the car to cool down between your 2-3 run segments. I found this not only helpful, but fun for later reviewing the footage. 8. FOLD YOUR MIRRORS IN- this probably does nothing but it makes you feel faster lol. It’s a 91GL tip and I like it. Sorry RS4 guys…your ears will have to stick out the whole time as the mirrors don’t fold.
9. BRING GAS - a 1 gallon jug of 93 octane gas just in case you run so low at the strip that you’re getting close to empty. Having the car sputter on a run isn’t good, with the gas sloshing around in there from the violent launch and shifts…and running out when you’re in the boonies 20 miles from a good gas station also sucks. This happens to me every time…I run the car down real low, then have literally 20 miles before the nearest 94 octane station (we only have 91 and only one company sells 94). Just leave it in the ‘paddock’ with your cooler of ice and it should be safe. Dragstrips often have some shady characters though so keep an eye on it between runs.
10. GO ON A COLD DAY- density altitude at or below zero is your friend. Dense air rich with oxygen lets you make power more readily than hot humid air, so skip the friday night drags in July, and try to get out there in early spring/late fall (as far as best times go…summer nights are still fun at the strip)
11. GO ON A COLD DAY PART II- the other beautiful thing about going on a cold spring/fall day is that a) it is not optimal for FWD/RWD cars traction wise, so the numbers will be down…and people just don’t like the cold, so again the number of cars will be down. Perfect for you as staging in a 4.2 Audi is a heat soak nightmare.
12. SHALLOW STAGE- the staging setup is pretty alien if you’ve never been to the strip, but simply put it’s a huge factor in your ET’s success/failure. The staging lights on the top of the tree are illuminated when you cross the beams that run perpendicular to the direction of travel across the track a couple of inches across the ground. They are about 12" apart, and they won’t start the clocks until your front wheels are blocking both beams. The clock doesn’t start until the BACK of your front tire crosses and ‘unblocks’ the front staging beam. You can figure out that this means you’re actually moving for about 10-12 inches BEFORE the clocks even start ticking if you ‘shallow stage’ or BARELY block the farthest staging beam with the leading edge of your front tire. At a test and tune day, this means a 0.2-0.4 second head start…and it also means that much shaved off your elapsed time vs. being ‘deep staged’ where you’re at the point just before the back of your front tire unblocks the back beam. It seems like no big thing…but it’s huge. It’s the difference between 12.9 and 13.1 for B6/7 S4/RS4 so take great care to shallow stage. Google the term shallow stage and you’ll get a better explanation with illustrations.
13. GO STRAIGHT!- this sounds funny, but its amazing how many people line up crooked, then need to correct on the track. Absurd waste of time…so make sure as you approach the staging beams you’re going straight for at least 10-15 feet. Perfectly straight aimed down your desired line down the track. Watch primetime’s videos to see…he pays good attention to this and makes minimal steering corrections, staying straight down the lane.

And turn off your ESP! My first run was a disaster as the ESP didn’t like the balls out launch.

Wow saki thanks for all that, learned a lot. I would have never thought to let the car cool. I don’t have spacers so I think I’m SOL if I want to keep my IM cool. I’m going on Tuesday which is their “muffler cars only” day which I guess is just street cars. The strip is about an hour away from my house, it’s actually just over the border in Wisconsin which is about an hour away. It’s called Great Lakes Dragaway(not dragway).

I’ll have some good footage for y’alls. One camera in the car and the gf will be filming from the outside

With your modlist, I’m pretty excited to see what you run. Good luck, you have a killer car…

I don’t know…b6JOE is one of the beats-boys with the giant car stereo and 150 lbs subwoofers like mbgt72 and ngng :smiley:

bahahahha

Hey now, mine is removable. Sub will be staying home.

Looks like today is Test and Tune from 5-9
http://www.greatlakesdragaway.com/

Great Lakes is a nice track, just keep an eye out for troopers nearby. They LOVE people with out of state plates and with an on ramp that seems to come on every 30 feet they like to hide everywhere.

It’s why I always deal with 90 and construction instead of that cursed 94.

is this where cabracco goes?

dragaway is funny. It sounds like the guy painting the big sign out front messed up, and they just looked at it and said…fuk it. It’s easier to leave it.

Best so far is 13.250@104.85. 1.888 60’

Clutch is getting hot. Letting her cool then more runs

Good shit Joe. Any updates?

How many passes were you able to get overall?

Sweet time. Sure you’ll go faster. n00b question - how do you know when your clutch is getting hot?

im guessing smell?

lol no, I think it just doesn’t feel like it’s holding as solidly on shifts etc.

Either that or joe is having a go at the guy from SouthBend who told jdubya the SouthBend clutch in his ~400 whp nitrous car isn’t holding because he got it ‘too hot’.

It just started to smell. I know what happened now though. My right foot beat left foot when shifting into 2nd. I got caught on the reverse gate and when I finally got it in 2nd, my left foot wasn’t committed and I slipped it. Just didn’t let the clutch out fast enough so by the time it was fully engaged, I was already over 5000 rpm. I just need to install the stiffer reverse spring. It feels completely normal now.

I think I need to beef up my lines or something to the SS ones. The clutch pedal gets spongy after a couple runs and there is literally no feel.

uh oh, what is ngng going to do now thatt he company he refers everyone to buy over JHM cant even make a clutch that works themselves. lol

How old is your brake fluid/what brand?