Nah, not my car and Jeff asked that I not share but since it’s going as the record(assuming he had it at the time) it should be disclosed IMO… Not trying to cause problems it was probably an oversight on his part…
Saki, I don’t consider it “calling him out”, but you’re entitled to your view… I simply asked was the new mod we talked about on the car when you made those passes, since I wasn’t there… To your point it looks like he picked up a few mph which is about what I’d expect with the new mod on the car, thus the inquiry for clarification… I believe it was but I’d prefer Jeff clarify since it’s his car and he knows what is what and if it wasn’t on the car then he probably wants to make some passes and get numbers before posting about it…
Well newsflash…you just nade it your business by calling him out publicly rather than pming him lol.
What does he have a rocket booster? He only gained a couple mph so it’s the equivalent of a 20 hp gain. Maybe 30 max.
So?
Saki,
Any chance your going to add my 11.77
B7 RS4, 1320, Full Miltek 100 cell, Loba Stage 1 clutch, K&N filter.
http://s22.postimg.org/gcgerpom5/Sydney_Drags_150603_11778_resized.jpg
Saki- the 11.57 Nov 16th slip was the fastest time I had for the car. Don’t remember an 11.55 and I don’t believe we went back to atco that late in the season.
Saki, I don’t consider it “calling him out”, but you’re entitled to your view… I simply asked was the new mod we talked about on the car when you made those passes, since I wasn’t there… To your point it looks like he picked up a few mph which is about what I’d expect with the new mod on the car, thus the inquiry for clarification… I believe it was but I’d prefer Jeff clarify since it’s his car and he knows what is what and if it wasn’t on the car then he probably wants to make some passes and get numbers before posting about it…
Got a couple for you.
JHM S5 12.6 @108
http://jhmotorsports.com/timeslips/B8S5/JHM_B8_S5_12_60_timeslip_ALL_MOTOR.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD0M3yE2W0o
My B7 A4 12.87 @106.38
http://www.jhmotorsports.com/timeslips/B7A4/BT/JHM_B7_A4_20T_12-8_Pre_Production_BT_Kit_11-26-14.jpg
Got a couple for you.
JHM S5 12.6 @108
http://jhmotorsports.com/timeslips/B8S5/JHM_B8_S5_12_60_timeslip_ALL_MOTOR.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vD0M3yE2W0o
My B7 A4 12.87 @106.38
http://www.jhmotorsports.com/timeslips/B7A4/BT/JHM_B7_A4_20T_12-8_Pre_Production_BT_Kit_11-26-14.jpg
Nice! Great to see some great times for interesting cars!
anyone know why Jeff hasn’t returned/replied/clarified?
I’m going to delete his time if we don’t get some clarification here. Then we will have to give auditude and the jockey their belt back.
Nice! Great to see some great times for interesting cars!
anyone know why Jeff hasn’t returned/replied/clarified?
I’m going to delete his time if we don’t get some clarification here. Then we will have to give auditude and the jockey their belt back.
^^ did we ever get this resolved? I think it’s pretty ridiculous this issue has been pending for so long. I vote to remove the time from the database until we have full disclosure. You post a time here, it’s your obligation to be forthright on your mods.
Jones was away on vacation. He sent me a pm yesterday.
He has created a custom part for his car that he doesn’t want copied. Thus the secrecy. It’s not a power adder. IE not nitrous or something.
So I leave it to the forum to decide.
We can delete his time
We can edit his time to add ‘custom part’
We can leave it as is
If it is adding 20 hp or something like that, it’s significant. Unfortunately GIAC will stand up and take credit for it when it has nothing to do with them. In fact they already have by pointing to their place atop the heap.
Personally I get not wanting everyone to know your secret sauce, however I don’t get wanting privacy…then starting mic drop threads on multiple forums and wanting the fame. And then telling primetime lol.
I reckon he will tell everyone eventually.
If we were guessing I’d guess it was some type of air ducting routing cold air to the airbox . The thing that stands out though is that he ran his larger, heavier wheels. Almost like he had to for the new part to work.
In any event we can have our own open mic and guys can share their opinions here.
So…?
My vote is the time should stand… Jeff ran the number with documentation and I understand why he doesn’t want to disclose. Personally, I think he should but it’s his car and his information to share.
He didn’t beat the top time by enough to even matter honestly. I say let it stand because his ‘secret’ may have done absolutely nothing and the stars just aligned perfectly the day he ran. I agree with Saki though, you don’t advertise your time and make it known, then turn around and attempt some claim of privacy.
I thought he was selling the car anyway?
Well I trust prime. If he knows what the mod is and is comfortable with the time standing, then I revise my vote.
Seriously, jones, just disclose. I don’t see how anyone could claim credit for your new mod - in fact, I think secrecy makes the opposite more likely.
I’ve spoken to him and think the time should stand. He has done quite a bit of custom mods that are hard to quantify in terms of performance. Keep in mind that he ran that time in May/April when the DA was +1200.
I believe he is driving out to e-town in the fall or at the least running the car a bunch once the DA drops. If he is able to significantly best his time like he should in -1500 DA, I figure then he’ll probably disclose all. But at least give him the chance to properly set the bar without everyone copying him and beating him to the punch. So, this debate will probably be moot in a couple months. That’s my .02
Yeah, it’s not like he went 11.2 @ 126 where there’s obviously something very significant. So we’re talking about 2 hundredths better than Auditude’s dad/Tsivas. The DA and the MPH have to be taken into account though.
My concern is that just like when someone runs with no interior and no catback and doesn’t disclose, it makes the rest of their mods look better than they actually are. i.e. people come to our site for facts. They read our list to see what works.
When someone sees that GIAC stage 2 on race gas is posting MPH that is 2 or 3 above the fastest APR cars, they may infer that the trap is because of GIAC’s secret sauce.
If jones were to disclose a little…i.e. ‘it’s an airbox mod’ or ‘it’s a cooling mod’ I’d be 100% for posting the time without digging deeper. When I get nothing though, I’m torn.
At the end of the day, it’s everyone’s list. If we think putting the time there without disclosing the 3rd most significant mod (tune, then pulley then this mystery mod) then we can just modify the entry and leave it.
He only trapped .40 mph better than my best MPH… Of course his ET was half second better because of my cars shifting… lol Agree with the rest of what you said…