Southbend clutch, feedback?

Does anyone have any firsthand feedback on their stg3 clutch and lightweight flywheel? I know its new but the only stuff I’ve found was in the KMD thread and the one on here months back.

JHM.

I’m only considering becuase its a lightly used one. No way in hell I’d pay the close to 3k for any of the lwfw clutch combos regardless of what company makes it. If I don’t go through with this I’ll likely end up with a JHM stg 4 clutch with stock flywheel.

To be honest bro, I’d never buy a used clutch

Hence this thread. I’m trying to do all my due diligence. Seller is saying that I can drive his car and also take a look at the clutch before throwing it on mine. I also have the option of sending it to SB and getting it resurfaced.

I’m gonna give you my honest opinion and say resurface your stock flywheel (I’ve done it) and go JHM Stage 4 clutch disc.

I would be about as likely to buy a used condom as I would be to buying a used clutch

How much is a used clutch vs. a new clutch? I mean I think the OEM RS4 clutch is like $500, and a JHM clutch is around $700. Can’t see why anyone would buy used. Even if it’s free, the labour is the killer on a clutch job, and risking having to do it twice eliminates any savings

example

Labour is about $1200

clutch A is new, and is $700, total cost $1900
clutch B is used, and is $0 and has 60% life left, total cost $1200

Clutch A lasts 25,000 miles, at which point you do it again. Clutch B lasts 15,000 miles and again, you need to buy another one.

Clutch A costs $0.10 per mile
Clutch B costs $0.08 per mile

Over 15,000 miles (it’s life), the used clutch saves you $300…and that’s if you got the used one for FREE. That’s not so awesome for uncertainty.

i assume you’re buying it from doka who was the tester for the clutch for southbend, he worked at kmd. i would not buy a test clutch…

i said this to pete the other day but i would never buy a single used part or car from any of you guys lol

Hey man my car is solid, my DD so it has to be. I didn’t know he was the tester. Prob wont happen now.

Saki, he wanted 1000 for it and his shop would do the labor for 600. So for 1600 installed I would have the set-up that sells for 2950. It’s a significant savings but I wanted to be sure it would be solid because having to redo the labor just once would kill any savings.

Someone came to me with a B8 and wanted to know if I could get them a JHM clutch kit. I asked htem if their phone was broken, but they explained that JHM was still testing and wasn’t selling and wanted me to use my influence on JHM lol. Or something. I just called Dan and asked him to help the guy out.

Anyway, the price kind of took me by surprise. I think it was around $2500? Is that right?

The B7 RS4 setup is under $2000.

For the JHM kit? If memory searves me right 1350 for stg 4and the lwfw was like low mid 2k not including the core. I think they have or are working on getting rid of the core part. I’m sure someone will correct me if im wrong.

there’s no chance it’s $3350…is there?

Right now I believe is $2495 for the Stage 4 and Flywheel. I don’t know anything about a core charge.

When they first had kits out I got a PM and mentioned it. I guess it’s no longer a part of it.

600 for labor sounds fair though. When I replaced mine with CMFX400, I was actually expecting much tougher job. Took about 3 hours all together. Also, I went to many different shops and nobody would resurface the damn flywheel, so I was forced to buy a brand new one at my local dealer. Retail was around 1200, but the GM discounted it for me to 800, fair enough. I do a lot of business with their parts department, fixing my own customers’ cars through side work and through the shop I work at now…paid off a bit I suppose :smiley:

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Dude do it right and get the JHM lightweight flywheel and stage four clutch kit. There is no core charge that I saw when I read JHM’s listing so it is a straight $2,495. Don’t ever skimp when it comes to replacing clutches because it will come back to bite you.

I started a thread here a while ago about replacing a clutch on a friend’s B8 S4. At first he destroyed the factory clutch, then he roasted the clutchmasters six puck clutch, and finally I put in the southbend dxd clutch kit. Needless to say I was not impressed with either the clutch masters or southbend garbage! Here is a link:

http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?topic=1339.0

there was a core charge ages ago when they had no stock, but I don’t believe it’s an issue anymore. Back then they were doing loads of work to produce each one.

Be3sides, core charges are refunded when you send your shit in. Non issue.

It is not the same platform but I will also tell you that I recently installed a southbend steel flywheel and clutch kit on a B7 A4 2.0T. I was amazed by the amount of chatter that kit produced. Plus since it was a heavy steel flywheel the chatter just seemed to keep going and going and going. I would never install anything from southbend on my car.

Didn’t realize the B8 stuff was so much more expensive than the B6/7 stuff. I knew the flywheel was a crazy design though when I saw JHM doing the test fitting for the headers, I think they had some pictures in that thread from a long time ago of the B8 flywheel.

Makes me feel better about the prices of clutch options for my Porsche. Basic upgraded clutch sells for $1800 w/o flywheel, or carbon clutch is ~$3300 w/o flywheel. New oem flywheel is another $1k or a little more for a LW version. I’ll probably have to be doing that in the spring cause the oem clutch is barely good for the stock power levels.