"The JHM stage 2 kit makes much less tq than the old APR 1320 kit" -twits4estate

B6/7 S4/RS4
#1

So twis4estate, otherwise known as the ballerina Reid Coe, a notorious liar, made this statement today.

[quote]If you don’t believe me, I spoke with a gentlement(sic) who works at the audi dealership of said JHM benchmark car. He described the differences between the old kit the car had (APR 1320 kit even less power) and now the JHM Intercooled kit. He said both are fun but the roots type blower had much more low end torque and was a better daily driver.
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Well, he didn’t actually make it…he claims that a service employee at a Detroit area Audi dealership made this comment. About his car? No. About another customer’s car.

First off, that’s a pretty fucking weird thing to say.

Second off, why the fuck is the dealership doing comparison testing of customers’ cars? Are they writing a magazine and doing road tests on the side???

Third, why is this dealership employee sharing his thoughts and opinions on a valued customer’s car with some random fucking tweeker who drives a 15 year old shitbox???

Fourth, when did the dealership employee drive the car in JHM stage 2 guise? Didn’t tweets claim that the car had a blown motor when it was at the dealership? Of course we know it was fine and just had a fuelling issue which was fixed by a JHM employee, but still…funny shit. Sounds like tweets’ lies are piling up.

Anyway, here’s a dyno plot of an APR TVSr1320 supercharged RS4. 93 octane. 365 wtq peak. This is on APR’s hub dyno which we know tends to read a little less drivetrain loss than a traditional ‘at the wheels’ dyno. Still, considering all motor RS4s with JHM exhaust and tune alone have dyno’d anywhere from 310-320 wtq…this means that if the ballerina’s ridiculous statements are accurate, JHM stage 2 93 octane, which has made a dozen low 11 second passes, and has made a dozen 125+ MPH passes…is only adding 40 wtq to a tune/exhaust car.

And in fact, even less…since it was “much less”…enough that a dealership employee (who is likely about to have his ass turned inside out when the word gets to his boss that he’s joy-riding a valuable customer’s car, and then telling stories about it to random punks) was able to notice a discernible difference, and comment that it is much less torque and less enjoyable. What would that be…a 10 wtq difference? 20 wtq less? More?

So could the JHM Stage 2 car that we know goes low 11s @ 125+ MPH really be only making about 330 wtq??? Or does tweekers4estate need his fucking head looked at? That’s a loaded question. Of course he needs his fucking head looked at.

http://www.dragtimes.com/images_dyno/22515-2008-Audi-RS-4-Dyno.gif

#2

He started with if you don’t bel8eve me…ok we still dont believe him…that guy is a bag of laughs…

#3

Yeah the guy is an idiot.

#4

But he looked at different superchargers for his boat!

One of the biggest things that I see being overlooked…even though tweets is wrong on all accounts, is no one has mentioned that JHM gears their centris, right? So comparing some random centri to a top mount is pointless in his arguments…or as he says “facts”

#5

Here is some more gold from Twit-wit:

[QUOTE=TweetsS4Estate;9414939]You know what would settle this? A magazine showdown. Each company should bring out a vehicle with a stock block and their blower and see who wins on the road course, 1/4 mile, roll race, and dyno. Let’s go!

I say APR and AMD would be willing. I know flying tomatoes is super stoked about his car. Let’s get it going! How about the JHM boys? Anyone want to throw down?
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Really why in the world would APR or JHM give AMD free adverting by doing a magazine showdown?

#6

Funny, if they did that showdown today with all and the shops all brought their shop cars it would be pretty boring. JHM against nobody.

TTS/MRC - used to own an RS4 when they were developing their kit, but then sold it after it was launched. They now have an R8 at MRC which they are developing FI kits for.

JHM - owns a Sprint Blue RS4 and would be ready to rock

APR - doesn’t own an RS4

PES - doesn’t own an RS4

AMD - doesn’t own an RS4 (at least not until the last 3 days when they started claiming they did…but one thing we know for sure is that it isn’t supercharged)

#7

Tweets just has more money then brains. He dosent know anything. He just thinks if he posts enough about the cars his family owns that will be good enough for facts. He has proven time and time again to not be a ligit facts guy

#8

Not so sure about that. Just because you’re born on 3rd base, doesn’t mean you hit a triple. His dad may have more money than you can imagine, but tweets is an unemployed struggling dancer.

#9

Ant that the truth…

#10

That thread is very annoying on many levels - from the insinuations about JHM to the attacks on this forum, sheesh…

#11

I don’t understand how anyone can ever support AMD when Jason acts like such a deutsch on the forums. It’s so obvious he’s just trying to bash other companies rather than promote his product with real information. I love how he keeps saying their kit has the most miles on it over any other kit.

#12

Ole tweets must be doing something right as everyone is still talking about him.
Just saying all of you seem to be pretty into you online life and keep talking about tweets as if he is on a pedestal.

My 2cents

I posted twice so you can pick up on it faster… Like the supercharger

Also I really feel bad for all of you and your online lives
Trying to make yourselves feel better by bashing on others

#13

Isn’t that exactly what you are doing now???

#14

It’s his brother…if I’m not mistaken.

S6atron, why does your brother spread lies about JHM cars? I know a man directly related to JHm and their cars has bent over backwards for you, yet your brother aligns himself with a POS like jason@AMD. What power does Jason have over him? We are just JHM fans…why doesn’t he spread lies about us instead of going after a reputable company that rules the 4.2l game.

#15

I support my non lying brother no matter what!
Our family brother included has done a lot for the JHM boys as well as Kurt. We had the JHM boys to our shop and let them work on other customers cars. We have done favors back and forth to help each other out. That’s the long and short of it.

#16

Is still is pretty cool Tweetler gets his own thread! Kinda neat…
Ps Reid is not a liar at all if anything he is to truthful. It is sad to see people thriving off thread like this.
Wanted to back my brother as he is a wonderful hard working kid.

#17

So why do favors, then back hand JHMS and CV? Why have a great relationship and spread BS?

Because he hates AR and some of the members who call him on his BS…that makes sense.

#18

What CV said in regards to the JHM car broken down a dealership directly contradicts what Tweets said. So who is lying S6Atron?

#19

This. It’s a “he said, she said” situation. Who am I more likely to believe - tweets who snuck over to an Audi dealer trying dig up the dirt to pass onto his ole mate jason or countvohn/justincredible who passed on what the grey RS4 owner actually said?

S6atron, I know you lent JHM your shop in Detroit. But why does tweets go off on these crusades with jason@amd? It just doesn’t add up

#20

Don’t believe either one of us. Just look at what the owner wrote. he mentions that there was no issue and Tweets was wrong.