Video: Racing a Stage II B8 S4 in my Stage III B5 S4 - copied from vendorzine...

B8 S4
#97

I assume this is you tapping out because you realise now you completely fabricated quotes from me?

Here let me help you out.

[quote=sakimano]So I guess now we know a jfonz tuned “stage 3+” b5 s4 is a mid to low12s car. The saviour of the b5 platform. You’re able to send the b5 s4 backwards 5 years in progress, and get applauded for doing so by high schoolers everywhere .

To match that $10,000 build, a b8 guy got tune and exhaust. An rs4 could do so with tune and piggies.
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You followed with:

[quote=Auditurd3.0T]You really think an RS4 with just a tune and piggies can put up a fight with a Stage 2 S4? From looking at numbers it seems that even a Full JHM Bolt on car with 10k in mods is trapping around 111ish.
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To which I laid out the facts. Lightly modded RS4s are running mid to low 12s. Yes I think it can definitely put up a fight.

From there, you devolved into me calling a tune/piggies RS4 a b8 killer. You brought up $10,000 modlist RS4s. You brought up everything but the simple facts and got lost.

#98

You followed with:

[quote=Auditurd3.0T]You really think an RS4 with just a tune and piggies can put up a fight with a Stage 2 S4? From looking at numbers it seems that even a Full JHM Bolt on car with 10k in mods is trapping around 111ish.
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To which I laid out the facts. Lightly modded RS4s are running mid to low 12s. Yes I think it can definitely put up a fight.

From there, you devolved into me calling a tune/piggies RS4 a b8 killer. You brought up $10,000 modlist RS4s. You brought up everything but the simple facts and got lost.
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Your the one who brought up the 10k modlist for the S4.

I bought up the real mod list for my car (6500) and the 3 RS4’s that ran the best times off the list who have over 7k in mods.

#99

I didn’t get insecure, I’m just fed up with hearing him quote these ridiculously low mod quotes for Rs4’s and 10k mod quotes for s4’s for similar performance when it’s just now true.

#100

You followed with:

[quote=Auditurd3.0T]You really think an RS4 with just a tune and piggies can put up a fight with a Stage 2 S4? From looking at numbers it seems that even a Full JHM Bolt on car with 10k in mods is trapping around 111ish.
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To which I laid out the facts. Lightly modded RS4s are running mid to low 12s. Yes I think it can definitely put up a fight.

From there, you devolved into me calling a tune/piggies RS4 a b8 killer. You brought up $10,000 modlist RS4s. You brought up everything but the simple facts and got lost.
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Ok, you didn’t say it in black and white but I did not fabricate that quote. You have said it in other threads. Maybe now clearly but you have said it.

#101

Auditude… you realize he was referencing the b5 s4 with 10k in mods… not the b8 s4.

You’ve misread his post. He was complimenting the b8 s4 in saying it was easy to make it beat the b5, which had 10k in mods… and then threw in the rs4 as being capable of easily beating the b5 s4.

He is not saying the b8 s4 needed 10k in mods, which I think is what you are assuming.

Regardless, rs4 runs low 12s with tune/piggies, simple lol.

#102

Yes, they’re not talking to you and trying to bring you back on point. It’s all about ‘physiology’ lol.

#103

rs4 tony, are you rs4_tony in instagram?

#104

Regardless I’m done here. I said everything I had to say.

I’m not hating on you or fighting with you but just want to make sure you understand that you have a tendency to knock the S4 and raise the RS4 on a pedestal in posts all the time.

I had a B6 S4 and my dad had a B7 RS4. Trust me I love Audi V8’s and I’d rock an RS4 in a heartbeat. Just making it clear that an S4 doesn’t need more $ in mods than an RS4 to run good times, in fact it needs a lot less.

#105

I belong To another forum that has a anti-room basically where members can go to e-fight. Maybe we should create one for you guys.

#106

No he’s referring to the B8 and he’s done it in a lot of threads.

There’s not one RS4 on the 1/4 mile list with just Piggies and a tune that has run a low 12 second 1/4.

#107

Lol

#108

We have a war room, and that is where Auditude should have started this.

http://audirevolution.net/forum/index.php?board=18.0

#109

I wasn’t really looking to start hell- even though that’s what turned out of this. Just trying to clear some stuff up that needed to be cleared up.

#110

You’re done here because you realise you were dead wrong and half a dozen people have come in to tell you that you just misread the entire thread.

This all started Pete because you didn’t read what I wrote. I mentioned that a B8 modded like the video car would run mid to low 12s. A b5 S4 with $10,000 in mods could barely hang with it at low speeds (through the quarter mile for example). A B7 RS4 would also run mid to low 12s with barely any mods.

You turned that into

  1. me saying the RS4 is a B8 killer (I never said anything of the sort)
  2. me knocking the B8 S4 (all I did was compliment the fuck out of it for being able to sit beside an extensively modded B5 S4)
  3. me artifically low balling RS4 mod prices (I never did anything of the sort)
  4. me saying that the B8 needs more money in mods to match an RS4 (this is fucking laughable…you just straight made this up)

I put together that giant quarter mile list on the site, entering every data point with my own keyboard. Don’t forget that I know more about B5 S4, B7 RS4, B8 S4 quarter mile times than you ever will.

#111

I have no problem with Saki. I just wanted to clear this stuff up. We’ve been on good terms and I’d like to keep it that way since I feel both of us are good contributors to the forum.

I got some points across that I needed to get across, and same for you. I feel better now.

Sorry if I came off overly aggressive just that stuff has been bothering me.

I’m a fan of all automobiles especially all Audi’s and the last thing i want is to bash other Audi platforms. I always give credit where credits do, and the RS4 is an exceptional machine and runs very well. But so does the S4 and both do with similar money in mods.

You can’t go wrong either way, it’s just a matter of preference.

#112

Yes that’s me why

#113

Pete - his “$10k in mods” comment was about the B5. GO BACK AND READ THE FIRST PAGE!

You’ve totally misread Sak’s posts.

#114

I’m not referring to that post.

#115

  1. Ok, you never said that straight up and although you have referenced to that I’ll just say I’m wrong and leave it out of the argument.

  2. You never “knock” the S4 however as soon as you throw a compliment it’s way there’s always reference to an RS4 with minimal mods matching it’s performance.

  3. You always in every thread give low ball $ for RS4 mods. Like a piggy/tune RS4 running low 12’s when there’s a 12.4x on the list and that’s it.

  4. You just said that the B8 S4 is stupid expensive to mod (2,000?!?! For a tune a pulley).

Yeah it might be $1,800 for a tune and pulley but the performance were getting IMO is worth the money. That’s just my opinion of course.

Yes, you probably do know more about all the platforms from a 1/4 mile standpoint. You are very knowledgable I never would bash you for that. I respect you.

#116

A JHM tune + piggies RS4 will most certainly hang with any tune and exhaust B8 S4 (a mid to low 12s car) in a quarter mile run. If you want an $8,000 modlist on the B8 S4 to make you feel better, that’s cool. Can I spend $8,000 on the RS4 too? if so, let me dial in a JHM Vortech V3 supercharger kit ($7900) + piggies (free). I will run in the 11s on california 91. Do you really think this is going to go well for the B8 S4?

So, to stay on topic, I will say again: tune + exhaust B8 S4 = tune + piggies RS4 = most stage III B5 S4 (K04 or equivalent turbos).

Sad (for the B5) but true .
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$8,000 in mods in the B8 S4 and all the RS4 needs is the blower but all the supporting mods including the clutch is not included in that price. Tsivas doesn’t have a clutch so Saki will add that on and say 10k in the B8 S4 when realistically I put 6500 into my car including Testpipes and a clutch and it was 6500.