Auditude, You seem confused. You wanted to see tune/piggies cars running in mid-low 12s and there are 2 of them right there. One has rotors and a flywheel (the seats are nearly irrelevant). One has almost nothing. Neither is even tuned. Both went mid-low 12s. One trapped 112.98 like your dad’s revo car. One trapped 113.7 like your Giac B8 with everything thrown at it.
Why is this so hard?
Let’s look at it another way.
I went 12.75 @ 108.3 last spring (1.83 60’). I had ZERO mods. Bone stock. DA was +300.
I went 12.82 @ 109.9 last fall (1.87 60’). I had ZERO mods. Bone stock. DA was -800. Jspazz kept telling me I was losing tons of time with my tire spinning launches. Who knows what I’d have run if I hooked up. He probably does.
Both times I had never been carbon cleaned. 30,000 miles on the 12.75. 45,000 mlies on the 12.82.
You think that if I gut my downpipes, add a JHM 93 tune with JHM launch assist and get a carbon clean (I just did) I’m going to go…what? What would my car do?
You seem to be fighting this so let me ask you. What will my car do with me driving with tune and piggies? And with jspazz’ coaching.